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Lippa91	General MLB (non Red Sox) 2009-10 Offseason Thread		Lead	[-]
Posts: 1951 11/05/09 1:24 PM Forum Moderator	Tags : None Now that the World Series is over and the off-season is officially here, I think it's time to put the 2009 season thread to bed. Use this thread for general MLB news, trades, signings and discussion. "There's a reason why you wear this Red Sox uniform. Because you're a bad mother#@%&$." -- David Ortiz Last Edited By: soxprospects 12/03/09 11:54 AM. Edited 2 times.
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amfox1		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6303 11/03/09 11:02 AM Senior Forum Moderator	Elias rankings (official): Boston players (in order of unofficial ranking): Lester (A) Bay (A) (free agent) Papelbon (A) Beckett (A) Youkilis (A) Pedroia (A) Matsuzaka (A) Martinez (A) (team option) Lowell (A) Wagner (A) (team option) Ortiz (A) Drew (A) Saito (A) (team option declined) Ramirez (A) Okajima (A) Wakefield (B) (team option) Varitek (B) (team/player option) Ellsbury (B) Delcarmen (B) EDIT: 11/9 - designations are official, relative rankings are not Last Edited By: amfox1 11/09/09 6:12 PM. Edited 3 times.
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amfox1		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6304 11/03/09 11:25 AM Senior Forum Moderator	2009/2010 MLB free agents (courtesy of www.mlbtraderumors.com, with my edits) The player's 2010 age is in parentheses. I've included projected Type A/B status. Bolded means they have filed for free agency (171). Catchers Eliezer Alfonzo (31) Brad Ausmus (41) Paul Bako (38) Rod Barajas (34) - Type B (expected to be offered arb) Josh Bard (32) Michael Barrett (33) - club option Henry Blanco (38) (11/30 - expected to sign with NYM) Ramon Castro (34) Chris Coste (37) (11/30 - signed by NYM to minor league deal but guaranteed a spot on the 40 man roster) Sal Fasano (38) (retired to coach A ball) Toby Hall (34) Michel Hernandez (31) ~~Ramon Hernandez (34) - $8.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout - Type B~~ (11/16 - re-signed with CIN) Jason Kendall (36) - Type B Jason LaRue (36) (11/30 - expected to re-sign with STL) ~~Victor Martinez (31) - $7.7MM club option with a $250K buyout - Type A~~ (11/9 - option exercised by BOS) Chad Moeller (35) Bengie Molina (35) - Type A Jose Molina (35) Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option - Type B (11/6 - option declined by KC) Mike Redmond (39) Ivan Rodriguez (38) - Type B (Boras client) Brian Schneider (33) (12/1 - signed with PHI) Yorvit Torrealba (31) - $4MM mutual option with a $500K buyout - ~~Type B~~ (11/6 - option declined by COL) Matt Treanor (34) Javier Valentin (34) ~~Jason Varitek (38) - $5MM club/$3MM player option plus incentives - Type B (Boras client)~~ (11/11 - $3MM player option exercised by Varitek) Vance Wilson (37) Gregg Zaun (39) - $2MM club option with a $500K buyout; Zaun can void option - Type B (11/9 - option declined by TB) First basemen Rich Aurilia (38) (also 3B) Jeff Bailey (31) Kevin Barker (34) ~~Wilson Betemit (28) (also 3B)~~ (11/12 - signed a minor league deal with KC) Hank Blalock (29) (Boras client) Russell Branyan (34) Miguel Cairo (36) Frank Catalanotto (36) Tony Clark (38) Carlos Delgado (38) - Type B Nomar Garciaparra (36) (also 3B) Ross Gload (34) - $2.6MM club option (11/5 - option declined by FLA) Eric Hinske (32) (also RF) Nick Johnson (31) - Type B Adam LaRoche (30) - Type B Doug Mientkiewicz (36) Kevin Millar (38) Fernando Tatis (35) (also LF) - Type B Chad Tracy (30) - $7MM option with a $1MM buyout (11/5 option declined by ARI) Daryle Ward (35) Dmitri Young (36) Second basemen Ronnie Belliard (35) - Type B Jamey Carroll (36) Alex Cora (34) (also SS) - Boras client (11/30 - re-signed by NYM for 1/$2mm with a vesting option) Craig Counsell (also SS/3B) (39) Mark DeRosa (35) (also 3B) - Type B Jerry Hairston Jr. (34) (also SS/CF) Orlando Hudson (32) - Type A ~~Akinori Iwamura (31) - $4.85MM club option with a $550K buyout~~ (traded to PIT on 11/3, option exercised) Adam Kennedy (34) (also 3B) Felipe Lopez (30) - Type B (Boras client) Mark Loretta (38) (also 3B) Pablo Ozuna (35) (also 3B) Placido Polanco (34) - Type A Danny Richar (26) Luis Rodriguez (30) (also SS) Juan Uribe (31) (also 3B) Shortstops Orlando Cabrera (35) - ~~Type A, can't be offered arbitration~~ Juan Castro (38) (11/24 - agreed to term on 1 year deal with PHI with club option) Bobby Crosby (30) (also 3B) Adam Everett (33) Chris Gomez (39) Alex Gonzalez (32) - $6MM mutual option with a $500K buyout (11/26 - signed with TOR for 1/$2.75mm, with $2.5mm club option) Nick Green (31) (also 2B/3B) Khalil Greene (30) Ramon Martinez John McDonald (35) (11/25 - re-signed with TOR for 2/$3mm) Marco Scutaro (34) - Type A Miguel Tejada (36) (also 3B) - Type A Omar Vizquel (43) (11/23 - signed with CWS for 1/$1.375mm) ~~Jack Wilson (32) - $8.4MM club option with a $600K buyout~~ (11/13 - re-signed with SEA for 2/10) Third basemen Brian Barden (29) Adrian Beltre (31) - Type B (Boras client) Aaron Boone (37) Joe Crede (32) (Boras client) Pedro Feliz (35) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout (11/6 - option declined by PHI) Chone Figgins (32) - Type A Troy Glaus (33) - Type B Mike Lamb (34) Melvin Mora (38) - Type A Robb Quinlan (33) Left fielders Garret Anderson (38) - Type B (Boras client) Marlon Anderson (36) Jason Bay (31) - Type A Emil Brown (35) Marlon Byrd (32) (also CF) - Type B ~~Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout - Type B~~ (11/9 - option exercised by TB) Johnny Damon (36) - Type A (Boras client) David Dellucci (36) Cliff Floyd (37) Matt Holliday (30) - Type A (Boras client) Reed Johnson (33) (also CF) Laynce Nix (29) Greg Norton (37) Wily Mo Pena (28) ~~Manny Ramirez (38) - $20MM player option - Type A (Boras client)~~ - (11/6 - Manny exercised his option) Dave Roberts (38) Marcus Thames (33) Randy Winn (36) (also RF) - Type B Center fielders Rick Ankiel (30) (Boras client) Rocco Baldelli (28) Mike Cameron (37) - Type B Endy Chavez (32) Coco Crisp (30) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout (11/6 - option declined by KC) Darin Erstad (36) Jeff Fiorentino (27) Ryan Freel (34) Joey Gathright (28) (also LF) Andruw Jones (33) (Boras client) (11/25 - signed with CWS for 1/$500k) ~~Mark Kotsay (34)~~ (11/5 - resigned with CWS for 1/1.5) Corey Patterson (30) Scott Podsednik (34) DeWayne Wise (32) (11/25 - signed minor league deal with PHI) Right fielders ~~Bobby Abreu (36) - Type A~~ (resigned on 11/5 with LAA for 2/19 with an option) Jermaine Dye (36) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout - Type A (11/6 - option bought out by CWS) Brian Giles (39) - ~~Type B~~ Geoff Jenkins (35) Austin Kearns (30) - $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout (11/6 - option declined by WAS) Jason Michaels (34) Xavier Nady (31) - Type B (Boras client) Designated hitters Shelley Duncan (30) Jason Giambi (39) ~~Ken Griffey Jr. (40)~~ (11/11 - re-signed 1 year deal with SEA) Vladimir Guerrero (35) - Type B Aubrey Huff (33) Hideki Matsui (36) Gary Sheffield (41) Matt Stairs (42) Mike Sweeney (36) Jim Thome (39) Starting pitchers Brandon Backe (32) Cha Seung Baek (30) Miguel Batista (39) Erik Bedard (31) - Type B Kris Benson (34) Paul Byrd (39) Daniel Cabrera (29) (11/5 ARI outrighted, and Cabrera chose FA) Chris Capuano (31) (11/23 - re-signed with MIL) Aroldis Chapman (22) Bruce Chen (33) Bartolo Colon (37) Jose Contreras (38) Doug Davis (34) - Type B Justin Duchscherer (32) - Type B Adam Eaton (32) Shawn Estes (37) Josh Fogg (33) Jon Garland (30) - $10MM mutual option with $2.5MM buyout - Type B (11/5 option declined by LAD) Tom Glavine (44) Mike Hampton (37) Rich Harden (28) - ~~Type B~~ (11/10 - rumored to want to return to CHC) Mark Hendrickson (36) Livan Hernandez (35) Rich Hill (30) Shawn Hill (29) ~~Tim Hudson (34) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout~~ (11/12 - signed a three year $27mm extension with ATL) Jason Jennings (31) Jason Johnson (36) Randy Johnson (46) - Type B John Lackey (31) - Type A ~~Cliff Lee (31) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout - Type A~~ (11/6 - option exercised - easiest. decision. ever.) Braden Looper (35) - $6.5MM mutual option with possible buyout - Type B (11/13 - option declined by MIL) Rodrigo Lopez (34) (Boras client) Noah Lowry (29) Jason Marquis (31) - Type B Pedro Martinez (38) Eric Milton (34) Brett Myers (29) Tomo Okha (34) Vicente Padilla (32) - Type B Carl Pavano (34) - Type B Brad Penny (32) Odalis Perez (33) Andy Pettitte (38) - Type B Joel Pineiro (31) - Type B Sidney Ponson (33) Mark Prior (28) Horacio Ramirez (30) Jason Schmidt (37) (11/10 - reportedly leaning towards retirement) Ben Sheets (31) John Smoltz (43) Brett Tomko (37) ~~Tim Wakefield (43) - perpetual $4MM club option - Type B~~ (11/9 - option declined by BOS, but Wakefield enters into a 2-year contract for $5mm guaranteed, plus incentives) Jarrod Washburn (35) (Boras client) Jeff Weaver (33) ~~Brandon Webb (31) - $8.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout - Type B~~ (11/6 - option exercised by ARI) Todd Wellemeyer (31) Kip Wells (33) Randy Wolf (33) - Type A Closers Mike Gonzalez (32) - Type A Kevin Gregg (32) - ~~Type A~~ Fernando Rodney (33) - Type B Rafael Soriano (30) - Type A Jose Valverde (32) - Type A Billy Wagner (38) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout - Type A - Red Sox agreed not to exercise option Right-handed relievers Luis Ayala (32) Danys Baez (32) Joaquin Benoit (32) Rafael Betancourt (35) - $5.4MM club option - Type A (11/13 - option declined by COL) Chad Bradford (35) Doug Brocail (43) - Type B Kiko Calero (35) - Type B Buddy Carlyle (32) (11/19 - signed in Japan) Chad Cordero (28) Elmer Dessens (38) R.A. Dickey (35) Brendan Donnelly (38) Octavio Dotel (36) - Type A Kelvim Escobar (33) Eric Gagne (34) (Boras client) Geoff Geary (33) Dan Giese (33) Edgar Gonzalez (27) Tom Gordon (42) Jason Grilli (33) LaTroy Hawkins (37) - Type A Matt Herges (40) Bob Howry (36) - Type B Jason Isringhausen (37) Jorge Julio (31) Masahide Kobayashi (36) Shane Loux (30) Brandon Lyon (30) - Type B Gary Majewski (30) Guillermo Mota (36) - Type B Joe Nelson (35) Chan Ho Park (37) - Type B Tony Pena Jr. (29) Joel Peralta (34) Troy Percival (40) ~~Scott Proctor (33)~~ (11/4 signed split contract with ATL) J.J. Putz (33) - $9.15MM club option with a $1MM buyout (11/6 - option declined by NYM) Juan Rincon (31) Takashi Saito (40) - Red Sox declined option Duaner Sanchez (30) Rudy Seanez (41) Justin Speier (36) Russ Springer (41) - Type B Julian Tavarez (37) ~~Brad Thompson (28) (MLFA)~~ (11/18 - agrees to minor league deal with KC) Luis Vizcaino (35) David Weathers (40) - $3.7MM club option with a $400K buyout - Type B (11/6 - option declined by MIL) Jamey Wright (35) Yasuhiko Yabuta (37) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout (11/6 - option declined by KC) Tyler Yates (32) Left-handed relievers Joe Beimel (32) - ~~Type B~~ Bruce Chen (32) Alan Embree (40) - $3MM club option with a $250K buyout (11/6 - option declined by COL) Scott Eyre (38) - Type B Casey Fossum (32) ~~John Grabow (31) - Type A~~ (11/19 - signs two year $7mm deal with CHC) Eddie Guardado (39) Ron Mahay (39) Will Ohman (31) - $2.2MM club option - Type B (11/9 - option declined by LAD) Darren Oliver (39) - Type A Horacio Ramirez (30) Glendon Rusch (35) Scott Schoeneweis (36) (Boras client) Brian Shouse (41) - $1.9MM club option with a $200K buyout - Type B (11/9 - option declined by TB) Ken Takahashi (41) Jack Taschner (32) Ron Villone (40) (Boras client) Jamie Walker (38) EDIT: 11/9 - Elias rankings are official (changes: Guerrero A--->B, Figgins/Mora B----> A, Matsui/Hairston/Huff - no comp, Zaun becomes a B). 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amfox1		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6305 11/03/09 11:31 AM Senior Forum Moderator	Potential non-tender candidates (courtesy of www.mlbtraderumors.com, with my edits) December 12th marks baseball's non-tender deadline. Unsigned players on a team's 40-man roster who not tendered a contract become free agents. It is a chance for certain players to reach free agency without putting in the typical six years of service time. David Ortiz is the most famous non-tendered player. Jeremy Accardo Brian Anderson Garrett Atkins John Bale Jose Bautista Boof Bonser Brian Bruney Taylor Buchholz John Buck Dave Bush Ryan Church Neal Cotts Jack Cust Mike Fontenot Ryan Garko Chad Gaudin Jody Gerut Jonny Gomes Gabe Gross Conor Jackson Mike Jacobs Bobby Jenks Kelly Johnson Logan Kensing Ryan Langerhans Matt Lindstrom John Maine Andy Marte Seth McClung Brandon Medders Sergio Mitre Dioner Navarro Laynce Nix Scott Olsen Kelly Shoppach Tim Redding Jeremy Reed Jason Repko Cory Sullivan Brian Tallet Doug Waechter Chien-Ming Wang Last Edited By: amfox1 11/20/09 4:29 PM. Edited 8 times.
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Nexus		#4	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 274 11/05/09 4:52 PM	Abreu deal according to Ed Price: 2 years/ $19 million; $1 million buyout on $9M option for 2012 that can be guaranteed base on PAs. That's a good deal for Abreu considering age, defense, etc. Perhaps this sets the tone for offensive minded corner OFs who can't play a lick of defense.
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templeUsox		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 15039 11/05/09 7:14 PM Veteran Member Podcast Panelist	amfox1 wrote: Potential non-tender candidates (courtesy of www.mlbtraderumors.com, with my edits) Conor Jackson Looks like the pendulum has swung in David Murphy's favor. I always knew it was a good pick.
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Nexus		#6	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 278 11/06/09 10:46 AM	amfox1 wrote: Potential non-tender candidates (courtesy of www.mlbtraderumors.com, with my edits) Andy Marte As long as we're tapping into the "unfulfilled potential" category, Marte is a sexy name if he's actually non-tendered. His '09 numbers at AAA Columbus are really hard to ignore: .327/.369/.593/.963, 16.7 K%, and .267 ISO. But he, like many guys in AAA, hasn't exactly figured it out at the MLB level. He just turned 26 and he's always been considered a plus defender at 3B. He's got his flaws and, up to this point, Hermida is more proven - but he certainly wouldn't cost much and could easily be labeled as another low risk/high reward acquisition. I was somewhat surprised to see him on this list.
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Yirmiyahu		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 578 11/06/09 12:22 PM Forum Moderator	Nexus wrote: As long as we're tapping into the "unfulfilled potential" category, Marte is a sexy name if he's actually non-tendered. His '09 numbers at AAA Columbus are really hard to ignore: .327/.369/.593/.963, 16.7 K%, and .267 ISO. But he, like many guys in AAA, hasn't exactly figured it out at the MLB level. He just turned 26 and he's always been considered a plus defender at 3B. He's got his flaws and, up to this point, Hermida is more proven - but he certainly wouldn't cost much and could easily be labeled as another low risk/high reward acquisition. I was somewhat surprised to see him on this list. I'm not too surprised by it. Last offseason, he was DFA'd and cleared waivers. And one big difference between him and Hermida is that Hermida has at least been average at the MLB level, while Marte has been horrible.
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TEXS31		#8	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1555 11/06/09 1:06 PM	Per Rotoworld, J.J. Hardy to Minnesota for Carlos Gomez. So I guess: 1. Hardy's not an option for the Sox 2. Cabrera not returning to Minny (seems like he wanted to) 3. Cameron might not be returning to Milwaukee 4. Span is full time CF in Minny 5. Delmon Young may be spared (some thought NT in future, especially if Twins wanted Span, Gomez, Cuddyer OF). Small trade with many potential ramifications. Interesting.
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SoxSail		#9	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 296 11/06/09 1:13 PM	Well, we do need 3B depth at Pawtucket, unless you all think Jimenez is ready to fill in. I wonder if the Sox might be able to completely restock their AAA team with some of these non-tenders. We have particular need at 3B, 2B and SS, while having surpluses in the OF, including Nava, Engel and Daeges, as well as Brown, KJohnson, Mills and potentially Jimenez, who possibly could have enough upside to help another club ala Hunter Jones. By making pairings like that last trade, the Sox could greatly increase their own personal "replacement-level."
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Nexus		#10	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 279 11/06/09 1:14 PM	Yirmiyahu wrote: I'm not too surprised by it. Last offseason, he was DFA'd and cleared waivers. And one big difference between him and Hermida is that Hermida has at least been average at the MLB level, while Marte has been horrible. Who cares? He came back this year and had the kind of bounce back season that reminded some he was once considered the best prospect in baseball. Besides, there are plenty of players who were DFA'd and went on to have productive MLB careers. And by all accounts, Hermida's value (0.4 wins over replacement the last two years combined) would lead you to suggest he has been less than average at the MLB level. Outside of more PAs, the only real difference between the two (as of today), is Marte would cost a fraction of Hermida's 2010 salary.
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Yirmiyahu		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 579 11/06/09 5:13 PM Forum Moderator	What does everyone think the Angels will do about their logjam in the infield? They have Aybar (SS), Kendrick (2B), Izturis (2B/SS/3B), top prospect Brandon Wood (SS/3B), and might re-sign Figgins (3B/2B). They could let Figgins walk, without replacing him, and let Izturis and Wood share 3B duties. But if they sign Figgins or another starting third baseman, they'll need to move someone. The natural move would be to trade Wood (who was often discussed in trade rumors at the deadline). But Wood's value is somewhat low, as he hasn't produced at the MLB level yet, while Izturis had a career year and is eligible for free agency after the season. If the Angels shop Izturis, I think he'd be perfect for the Red Sox as a one-year stopgap at SS, as well as filling in at 2B and 3B.
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SoxSail		#12	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 299 11/06/09 5:52 PM	I was thinking the same thing earlier, but clearly he's not a strong defensive SS, or he would be playing there already. His UZR #'s are all over the place, but are generally worse for SS (as we might expect) and certainly don't give me a ton of confidence in him. While he would help our offense, and could be a great Super Utility guy, my personal opinion is that we'd struggle with him at SS every day, especially considering our defensive issues at 3B.
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Yirmiyahu		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 580 11/06/09 6:52 PM Forum Moderator	SoxSail wrote: I was thinking the same thing earlier, but clearly he's not a strong defensive SS, or he would be playing there already. His UZR #'s are all over the place, but are generally worse for SS (as we might expect) and certainly don't give me a ton of confidence in him. While he would help our offense, and could be a great Super Utility guy, my personal opinion is that we'd struggle with him at SS every day, especially considering our defensive issues at 3B. I don't understand what you mean about his UZR numbers being all over the place... For infielders, I tend to trust UZR/150 as a good stat, if the sample size is large enough. His UZR/150, by position: 2B: 7.4 (1176.3 innings) SS: 4.7 (1144.3 innings) 3B: 1.4 (1489.3 innings) As far as "he's not a strong defensive SS, or he would be playing there already," Scioscia does weird things with his backups/starters and moving guys around between positions. And Izturis has averaged about 100 games and 380 PA's over the last 4 seasons, which is a lot of playing time for a "backup". Anyway, I have no idea if he's available; I just thought I'd throw it out there.
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SoxSail		#14	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 302 11/06/09 7:25 PM	Yirmiyahu wrote: I don't understand what you mean about his UZR numbers being all over the place... For infielders, I tend to trust UZR/150 as a good stat, if the sample size is large enough. His UZR/150, by position: 2B: 7.4 (1176.3 innings) SS: 4.7 (1144.3 innings) 3B: 1.4 (1489.3 innings) As far as "he's not a strong defensive SS, or he would be playing there already," Scioscia does weird things with his backups/starters and moving guys around between positions. This sheds a little new light. Is it kosher to take these small sample sizes from over the years and add them all up like this? I was originally ignoring his UZR because his yearly numbers ranged from -32.7 to 35.8 and were inconsistent across either position or year. Obviously they are also small sample sizes. But the compiled numbers, over many innings, compute with his decent range, solid glove, and lack of a canon for an arm. He still may be hard to get, and I'm not sure why the Angels haven't just settled on him at SS, but yeah, he seems like he could be a viable guy there for a year or two in Boston, if we believe he's an average or just above defender.
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mredsox89		#15	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 804 11/06/09 9:20 PM	TEXS31 wrote: Per Rotoworld, J.J. Hardy to Minnesota for Carlos Gomez. So I guess: 1. Hardy's not an option for the Sox 2. Cabrera not returning to Minny (seems like he wanted to) 3. Cameron might not be returning to Milwaukee 4. Span is full time CF in Minny 5. Delmon Young may be spared (some thought NT in future, especially if Twins wanted Span, Gomez, Cuddyer OF). Small trade with many potential ramifications. Interesting. Per the Globe Sox were in on Hardy, but the Twins wanted Buchholz or Bowden. The Brewers weren't interested Bowden who the sox were willing to deal.
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LongGone24		#16	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 801 11/06/09 11:05 PM	If the Brewers really believe that Gomez can replace Cameron, they'll have a savings of about 16.5 M. Pretty important for a mid-market team, and this year that could go a very long way. I'm still wait-and-see about Gomez.
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Sibby Sisti		#17	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 266 11/06/09 11:21 PM	mredsox89 wrote: TEXS31 wrote: Per Rotoworld, J.J. Hardy to Minnesota for Carlos Gomez. So I guess: 1. Hardy's not an option for the Sox 2. Cabrera not returning to Minny (seems like he wanted to) 3. Cameron might not be returning to Milwaukee 4. Span is full time CF in Minny 5. Delmon Young may be spared (some thought NT in future, especially if Twins wanted Span, Gomez, Cuddyer OF). Small trade with many potential ramifications. Interesting. Per the Globe Sox were in on Hardy, but the Twins wanted Buchholz or Bowden. The Brewers weren't interested Bowden who the sox were willing to deal. Huh?
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norbit14		#18	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 2716 11/07/09 12:46 AM Veteran Member	They wanted Buchholz and then they trade him for Gomez? Thats a pretty big drop-off.
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SoxSail		#19	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 303 11/07/09 12:51 AM	Sibby Sisti wrote: mredsox89 wrote: Per the Globe Sox were in on Hardy, but the Twins wanted Buchholz or Bowden. The Brewers weren't interested Bowden who the sox were willing to deal. Huh? Apparently the Brewers wanted Buch or Bard, and the Sox countered with Bowden. A CF prospect would have worked, but the Sox didn't have one ready for the Show to offer (apparently Reddick isn't good enough.) That's what the Globe was trying to say: http://www.boston.com/spo...dsox/extras/extra_bases/ The Sox have been talking about Hardy since before the trade deadline, but never worked anything out.
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TokenWilliams		#20	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 509 11/08/09 2:50 PM	Saito is a type A free agent... does the fact the Sox declined the option mean they cannot get compensation for him by offering arbitration? or is it possible for the Sox to get frist round & Sandwhich round compensation for Saito, Bay and Wagner? Here's hoping they actually resign Bay and just get first rounders for the other 2...
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