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9/12 ML Gameday Thread: Lowell looks to close out the baby bombers

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A+ - Salem - Off Day (Will play either Lynchburg or Wilmington for the CL Championship)
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SS - Lowell (Yeiper Castillo) @ Staten Island [NYY] (Kelvin Perez) 7:00 pm Game 3

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Don't really know where else to put this, but Pawtucket hitting coach Russ Morman wound up taking the fall for Pawtucket's awful season at the plate and has been let go by the team. Ron Johnson and pitching coach Rich Sauveur are both expected to be back next year. This per Dan Hoard on his blog.

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09/12/09 11:34 AM

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Arquimedez Bozo wrote:
Don't really know where else to put this, but Pawtucket hitting coach Russ Morman wound up taking the fall for Pawtucket's awful season at the plate and has been let go by the team. Ron Johnson and pitching coach Rich Sauveur are both expected to be back next year. This per Dan Hoard on his blog.

It is a shame. How he can be blamed for the failing of career ML players (most of which are already gone) that have never hit before and just did not hit once again is playing the blame game with Morman as the fall guy. Let 3-4 more of the career ML guy positional players go from the Pawtucket roster that have never hit in 5,6, even 7+ minor league seasons and if the Sox brass wants to go with this theory of someone having to take the blame for them signing players who just cannot hit, then the next hitting coach may have a chance.

They could of course bring up more guys like Kalish, let Daeges play, Wagner, Reddick and real prospects instead of filling the PawSox roster 3/4 full of career minor leaguers.

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I have no knowledge of this, but I'm wondering if the reason Mormon was let go wasn't the failure of career minor leaguers, but rather the collapse of all the promotions from Portland - Bell, Bates, Wagner, Reddick. All of them got off to bad starts in AAA, which isn't the first time something like that has happened after a promotion, but none of them ever really came out of it (Reddick probably getting a pass because of XSSS). Maybe it was pretty clear that Mormon didn't have much to offer to these guys. Or maybe a guy like Lowrie made a comment like "gee, I'm scuffling down here during my recovery period, and Mormon isn't giving me much help" that rang true, and found its way to influential ears.

This is all total speculation on my part, but it feels like the most logical explanation of why he was let go so soon after the end of the season, as if the decision had already been made before the season was over.

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I have no knowledge of this, but I'm wondering if the reason Mormon was let go wasn't the failure of career minor leaguers, but rather the collapse of all the promotions from Portland - Bell, Bates, Wagner, Reddick. All of them got off to bad starts in AAA, which isn't the first time something like that has happened after a promotion, but none of them ever really came out of it (Reddick probably getting a pass because of XSSS). Maybe it was pretty clear that Mormon didn't have much to offer to these guys. Or maybe a guy like Lowrie made a comment like "gee, I'm scuffling down here during my recovery period, and Mormon isn't giving me much help" that rang true, and found its way to influential ears.

This is all total speculation on my part, but it feels like the most logical explanation of why he was let go so soon after the end of the season, as if the decision had already been made before the season was over.

You're probably right, I'm pretty sure that that I've heard somebody say that the Sox brass uses things that they hear other people say, that they heard that a young prospect said, as the basis for their coaching decisions.

Edit: Barring that, there's a small chance that the Sox believe they can do better.

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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3-0 MFY, pitching change bottom of the 2nd inning, Castillo out, 2 outs (I think, but at least one), runners on 1st and third.

ADD: Pedro Perez in relief. Castillo was generally behind in the count but there was only one hard hit ball against him, a wall ball double.

1st batter against Perez singled (flare to left center) 4-0 MFY, runners on 1st & 3rd.
2nd batter double, (overan by Pichardo) 5-0 MFY.
3rd batter 3-2 swinging strikout
5-0 after 2, not good

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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Still 5-0 after 4

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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SI Yanks starter Kelvin Perez (DOB: 10/10/85) is older than anyone on the Spinners' roster, and in fact, he has at least a year on everyone but Bayer and Hedman. He's actually got two or more years on most of the guys, excluding Wilson, Butler, Dominguez, and, just by a couple months, Holmes.

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David and Goliath series.

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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Bayer in relief of Pedro Perez, 2 on 2 out still 5-0 5th inning.

Bayer walked the first man, bases loaded.

ADD: Flyout 5-0 after 5.
Spinners have 3 singles and 2 walks against 8 strikouts.

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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MFY Perez relieved by Bailey, Spinners scored a run in the 7th off a Butler double.

5-1 middle of the 7th

Sox game underway

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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It does appear that SI is a significantly older team than Lowell ......

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ancientsoxfogey wrote:
It does appear that SI is a significantly older team than Lowell ......

I'm guessing average age is roughly 2 years older. DaveLaurila (sorry, spelling) pointed out the other day that the Staten Island MFY have more 20+ year olds than the Greenville Drive.

The Spinners lost 5-1, congrats to the entire team for a year that was far more than we could have hoped for.

"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009

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congrats to the entire team for a year that was far more than we could have hoped for.

What does this mean? Did the AP NYPL pre-season poll not have them in the top 5 in the league? I would have given them even odds to make it to the first round of the playoffs. They had as much talent as anyone in the league.

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left coast bosox fan wrote:
DaveLaurila (sorry, spelling) pointed out the other day that the Staten Island MFY have more 20+ year olds than the Greenville Drive.

It wasn't I.

Regardless, great season for the Spinners. Congrats to Drew, Tim, Bos, the coaching staff, and everyone.

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09/13/09 8:28 PM

That was a great season by Lowell. This year's team was really fun to watch.

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left coast bosox fan wrote:
DaveLaurila (sorry, spelling) pointed out the other day that the Staten Island MFY have more 20+ year olds than the Greenville Drive.

It wasn't I.

Regardless, great season for the Spinners. Congrats to Drew, Tim, Bos, the coaching staff, and everyone.

Twas I... The only reason I looked it up was that I was in Lowell last week and was struck by how mature
the SI Yanks looked compared to the Spinners... not the first time, the Yanks have had a mature NY Penn
or GCL affiliate. That said, I think a Ryan Westmoreland loaded Spinners could have possibly taken
them out.

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