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01/27/12 5:54 PM
chavopepe2 wrote:Greek God of Pankakes wrote:More competition in Pawtucket:John Maine It looks like they are going to try him out of the pen.
Greek God of Pankakes wrote:More competition in Pawtucket:John Maine
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grandsalami wrote:im Duquette @Jim_Duquette Close Source - Roy Oswalt and the #Cardinals are close to a deal. #RedSox and #Astros are also still in the mix.
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rangoon82 wrote:grandsalami wrote:im Duquette @Jim_Duquette Close Source - Roy Oswalt and the #Cardinals are close to a deal. #RedSox and #Astros are also still in the mix.Welcome to the Vincente Padilla era, Sox fans.
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01/27/12 10:29 PM
Arquimedez Bozo wrote:I'm curious, what do you guys think it would take to get Floyd? Just hypothetically.
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01/27/12 10:41 PM
ji oh wrote: Phils mailbag guy casting doubt on Oswalt both mentally and physically: Any idea why the Phils aren't interested in Oswalt at what I assume is a lowered price?@angryelvis on Twitter That Roy Oswalt remains unsigned on Jan. 25 qualifies as the least surprising development of the winter for me. His agent was trying to sell people on a three-year deal in November, lied about a proposed meeting with the Yankees in New York, and probably misrepresented Oswalt's desire to play for that long. Most likely, some teams interested in Oswalt have asked Phillies people for their opinion on the righthander who made $16 million in 2011. The Phillies won't say such a thing publicly, but there are serious concerns about Oswalt's back holding up for an entire season, let alone three more. Now the asking price is reportedly down to one year and there still are no obvious suitors. Plus, Edwin Jackson is still out there and he's six years younger than Oswalt. The fact is, Oswalt probably only wants to pitch for a select group of teams. (Hint, hint: St. Louis.) People have said there's no such thing as a bad one-year contract. But it would take a lot of faith for a team to invest money in Oswalt, who mentally and physically wasn't always there in 2011. Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/Mailbag-Howard-Oswalt-Brown-and-numerology.html?cmpid=131298129#ixzz1kccHS2eG
Any idea why the Phils aren't interested in Oswalt at what I assume is a lowered price?@angryelvis on Twitter
That Roy Oswalt remains unsigned on Jan. 25 qualifies as the least surprising development of the winter for me. His agent was trying to sell people on a three-year deal in November, lied about a proposed meeting with the Yankees in New York, and probably misrepresented Oswalt's desire to play for that long.
Most likely, some teams interested in Oswalt have asked Phillies people for their opinion on the righthander who made $16 million in 2011. The Phillies won't say such a thing publicly, but there are serious concerns about Oswalt's back holding up for an entire season, let alone three more. Now the asking price is reportedly down to one year and there still are no obvious suitors. Plus, Edwin Jackson is still out there and he's six years younger than Oswalt.
The fact is, Oswalt probably only wants to pitch for a select group of teams. (Hint, hint: St. Louis.) People have said there's no such thing as a bad one-year contract. But it would take a lot of faith for a team to invest money in Oswalt, who mentally and physically wasn't always there in 2011.
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TokenWilliams wrote:If the Sox could get Floyd for Ranaudo and Iglesias, I'd be fine with that. If I were the GM in charge when Kenny was asking for that, I'd certainly try to get him for less, but I'd ultimately pull the trigger. 7M in 2012 and a 9.5M club option for 2013 which is a no brainer as far as I'm concerned. He's a quality pitcher who has the ability to go on great runs. The one tough thing about him will be that he tends to start slowly each year for whatever reason and the general fan and media member will be too dumb to cut him any slack.If the Sox don't deal Ranaudo and Iglesias this offseason for something good then there is a pretty good chance they get nothing out of them. Iglesias value has already tanked compared to where it was last year. An argument can be made that means you don't deal him now. But just as good an argument can be made that if someone still values him enough to get a very good major league pitcher in return then you take it before the value goes to nill. Same can be said for Ranaudo. A lot of people projected him as a number 3 starter out of the draft, but there were a bunch that believed he could sitll be a top of the rotation guy. That bunch has gotten much smaller and more people think he might be a back end starter rather than a mid rotation starter. A tough year in 2012 and the Sox won't get anything for him.If I were Cherrington, I'd try to package those two for a mid rotation level starter like Floyd. I don't think we have to worry about either turning into a superstar.
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01/27/12 11:22 PM
beasleyrockah wrote: I just don't get this new fascination with trading talent rather than signing comparable free agents for similar money.
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01/27/12 11:55 PM
buffs44444 wrote:beasleyrockah wrote: I just don't get this new fascination with trading talent rather than signing comparable free agents for similar money.This.
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01/28/12 1:09 AM
Oswalt headed ro the Cardinals, source says.
after rejecting $10M tigers bid, oswalt appears headed south (in terms of locale & $).
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Yirmiyahu wrote:Gordon Edes:Oswalt headed ro the Cardinals, source says.Jon Heyman:after rejecting $10M tigers bid, oswalt appears headed south (in terms of locale & $).
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buffs44444 wrote: Arquimedez Bozo wrote: I'm curious, what do you guys think it would take to get Floyd? Just hypothetically.Ranaudo and Bowden.
Arquimedez Bozo wrote: I'm curious, what do you guys think it would take to get Floyd? Just hypothetically.
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