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01/16/12 2:46 PM
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seadogs34 wrote: According to MLB.com's Peter Gammons, the Red Sox have agreed to terms with Vicente Padilla."No word yet on the financial details, but it's probably an incentives-driven one-year deal with a low base salary."
According to MLB.com's Peter Gammons, the Red Sox have agreed to terms with Vicente Padilla.
During the 2006 season, he also came under fire for his now infamous "lack of control" on the mound. Padilla caused a controversy in Chicago when he twice hit White Sox catcher A. J. Pierzynski, and later in the season again caused a benches-clearing brawl against the Angels when he repeatedly threw at Angels batters, showing particular interest in slugger Vladimir Guerrero. In September 2007 Padilla hit Oakland Athletics outfielder Nick Swisher after two pitches earlier in the plate appearances were inside that almost hit Swisher. Swisher then charged the mound starting a brawl and resulting in both players getting ejected. He also has a history of hitting former teammate Mark Teixeira.He also doesn't appear to have a good track record as a positive clubhouse influence......
On August 7, 2009, Padilla was designated for assignment by the Rangers after going 8–6 with a 4.92 ERA in 18 starts. Ten days later Padilla was given his release. He was released because he was "regarded as a disruptive clubhouse presence."[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Padilla
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totheights wrote: Looks like there is one less player in the Oswalt market:@JonHeymanCBS Jon HeymanDarvish agreement with #rangers expected to be 6 years. #rangers
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01/19/12 3:52 PM
totheights wrote:Also apparently we are still in the game for Gavin Floyd: @jonmorosi Jon Morosi Source: #RedSox still showing interest in Gavin Floyd. #WhiteSox
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01/19/12 4:35 PM
Arquimedez Bozo wrote:totheights wrote:Also apparently we are still in the game for Gavin Floyd: @jonmorosi Jon Morosi Source: #RedSox still showing interest in Gavin Floyd. #WhiteSoxThis is why I'm saying not to believe for one second that the Red Sox are ok with their pitching depth right now. I like the spaghetti monster they've put together if that monster is fighting for the fifth spot alone (assuming all are healthy). Cherington saying they're ok with what they have right now publicly on the Crawford injury conference call is a negotiating tactic.
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01/19/12 5:12 PM
Guidas wrote:Which is the same reason I've been mystified why the Sox didn't give Kuroda the one-year $12M deal he wanted and are reportedly balking at a one-year $8M deal for Oswalt. Instead you trade good assets away for Gavin Floyd whose tax hit will be near as much ($7M).
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01/19/12 6:03 PM
joshv02 wrote:Floyd has four benefits above Kuroda: 1. He is likely better in 2012, or at least similar. (Similar secondary numbers, when park adjusted, but significantly younger.) 2. His payroll tax hit is significantly less than $7mm; his deal has an AAV of $3.875mm. 3. He'd be paid less than Kuroda in 2012 ($7mm vs. $10mm, or Guidas's hypothetical $12mm). 4. He'd have a friendly-ish option for 2013, which, if he sucks or is injured, need not be exercised (obviously). Players are assets that are worth money. Paying for a player and trading for a player each cost assets. It doesn't matter which you choose if you value the assets properly.
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jmei wrote: Maybe the Sox did offer Kuroda a similar contract and he chose the Yankees over them (NY does have a significantly larger Japanese population)? Maybe they were uncomfortable with Kuroda's medicals or adjustment to the AL East? Maybe they prefer Oswalt and think they can get him for cheaper?These are all explanations that are, to me, much more likely than the "Henry suddenly decided to be cheap" hypothesis that seems to be all the rage. We'll see.
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01/20/12 12:02 AM
jmei wrote:Maybe the Sox did offer Kuroda a similar contract and he chose the Yankees over them (NY does have a significantly larger Japanese population)? Maybe they were uncomfortable with Kuroda's medicals or adjustment to the AL East? Maybe they prefer Oswalt and think they can get him for cheaper?These are all explanations that are, to me, much more likely than the "Henry suddenly decided to be cheap" hypothesis that seems to be all the rage. We'll see.
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"If Spring Training were to start tomorrow, we'd feel good about where we are and [we'd be] ready to put the team together," said the GM
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jdb wrote:I wouldnt read too much into BC saying that. Reports are we are still talking to Oswalt and the ChiSox about Floyd. I really dont think he would tip his hand this late in the offseason. As a pitcher I trust Floyd a lot more. Solid, innings eater, pitches in the AL and a hitters park. That being said you could not tell me giving up the prospects for him is better for 2012 and beyond than just signing Oswalt to a one year deal. I think the best thing to do is just sign Oswalt and go over the tax and prepare to stay under next season when we actually have a chance to put some cost controlled players on the field. WMB, Lavarnway and Kalish with Dice, Papi and Jenks coming of the books. Depend on how Iglesias progresses we might could go cheaper at SS as well. Wilson is a guy who should have a bullpen role at the minimum in 2013 also. If the front office thinks Bard is highly likely to succed in the 4th spot though it makes Oswalt less of a need. We need 4 quality starters we can count on and hope one of the recent depth signings or Doubront can take the 5th spot.
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