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rangoon82

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08/01/11 6:37 PM

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Pats resigned Matt Light. I like it even though he's a little old these days. The OL definitely needed depth.

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rangoon82

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08/01/11 6:41 PM

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TEXS31 wrote:
The Pats actually have 12 DL's on the roster (not including any hybrid types like Moore). 7 of them (Brace, Wilfork, Haynesworth, Wright, Pryor, Love and Deaderick) saw significant playing time last year. That's actually quite a lot for a base 3-4 team. Now, that being said, signs are pointing to them moving away from this (actually were in the base less than 50% of the time last year). The likelihood is that the'll show a lot of 4-man and even 2-man fronts this year. In both cases, Haynesworth (if his head is on right and that is a big if) can play a HUGE role.

Good call. The depth is there. I was just wondering who fits into that 3-4 DE spot with Wilfork and Haynesworth. I like Wright but I don't think he is Ty Warren's caliber. But yeah I hear you, the Pats may not rely heavily on the 3-4.

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amfox1

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08/03/11 9:31 AM

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Catching up on transactions since 7/27:

Signed CB Ras-I Dowling, RB Shane Vereen, RB Richard Medlin, OL Jonathan Compas, OG Chris Morris, DT Stephen Williams and DE Christian Cox.

Released QB Jonathan Crompton, LB Anthony Leonard, OL Mike Berry and RB Thomas Clayton.

Re-signed BJGE, Arrington, Mankins, Light, Morris, Faulk, McGowan and White.

I show 91 on the roster or controlled.

EDIT: more moves

Last Edited By: amfox1 08/03/11 5:07 PM. Edited 3 times.

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charliezink16

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08/03/11 5:46 PM

amfox1 wrote:
Catching up on transactions since 7/27:

Signed CB Ras-I Dowling, RB Shane Vereen, RB Richard Medlin, OL Jonathan Compas, OG Chris Morris, DT Stephen Williams and DE Christian Cox.

Released QB Jonathan Crompton, LB Anthony Leonard, OL Mike Berry and RB Thomas Clayton.

Re-signed BJGE, Arrington, Mankins, Light, Morris, Faulk, McGowan and White.

I show 91 on the roster or controlled.

EDIT: more moves

I really really loved the pick of Ras-I. He's really great in zone coverage and if he can stay healthy I think the Pats will have a dynamic secondary for years to come.

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amfox1

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08/07/11 5:46 PM

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More moves:

Signed OL Nate Solder, DL Mark Anderson, DL Shaun Ellis

Released DL Marlon Favorite, S Brandon McGowan, CB Thad Turner

IR - OL Kyle Hix, LB Ryan Coulson, LB Anthony Leonard (not released)

I show 88 on the roster or controlled. I will update the chart tomorrow.

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bjb406

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08/08/11 4:00 AM

Add Andre Carter to that list. Looks like the Patriots are going with the brute force method with figuring out the defensive line/outside linebackers. There are so many guys on the roster now. With the numbers, and guys missing practice, I have absolutely no idea who makes the team at this point, much less starts.

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amfox1

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08/08/11 1:36 PM

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And Gerard Warren. Clear signs of a change to a 4-3 base defense. Also, this has to be a bad sign for Brace.

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amfox1

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08/08/11 1:58 PM

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Reset 8/8pm (post-G.Warren/Carter/Ellis signings & McGowan release):

Pats 2011 Roster Chart (age as of 9/11/11, 89 signed to 2011+ contracts)

DL (16)

LB (13)

CB (7)

S (7)

OL (15)

RB (8)

TE (5)

WR (11)

QB (3)

ST (4)

Wilfork

(29/2014)

Mayo

(25/2012)

Bodden

(29/2013)

Meriweather

(27/2011)

Vollmer

(27/2012)

BJGE

(25/2010)

Gronkowski

(22/2013)

Ochocinco

(33/2013)

Brady

(34/2014)

Gostkowski

(27/2014)

Haynesworth

(30/2015)

Cunningham

(23/2013)

McCourty

(24/2014)

Chung

(24/2012)

Connelly

(29/2011)

Woodhead

(26/2012)

Hernandez

(21/2013)

Tate

(23/2012)

Hoyer

(25/2011)

Mesko

(25/2013)

Pryor

(25/2012)

Spikes

(24/2013)

Arrington

(25/2010)

Sanders

(27/2011)

Koppen

(32/2011)

Vereen

(2nd rd.)

C.Butler!

(24/2011)

Welker

(30/2011)

Mallett

(23/2014)

Katula

(28/2011)

Wright

(29/2012)

Guyton

(25/2011)

Wilhite

(27/2011)

Lockett

(24/2011)

Mankins

(28/2011)

Ridley

(22/2014)

L.Smith

(23/2014)

Branch

(32/2012)

Koepplin

(27/2012)

Brace

(24/2012)

Fletcher

(24/2012)

.Butler

(25/2012)

Brown

(23/2013)

Light

(33/2012)

Faulk

(35/2011)

Yeatman

(23/2012)

Edelman

(25/2012)

Deaderick

(24/2013)

Ninkovich

(27/2011)

Dowling

(23/2014)

Ventrone!

(24/2011)

Levoir

(29/2011)

Kettani

(24/2011)

Price

(23/2013)

Love

(24/2011)

M.Carter

(24/2014)

M.Williams

(22/2014)

Barrett

(26/2012)

Ohrnberger

(25/2012)

S.Morris

(33/2011)

Slater

(26/2011)

Cohen

(25/2011)

Lavarias

(22/2012)

Wendell

(24/2011)

Medlin

(24/2013)

Farnham!

(24/2012)

Weston

(23/2013)

Silvestro

(22/2012)

Solder

(23/2015)

Jenkins!

(28/2011)

Richard

(25/2011)

Nurse

(22/2012)

Cannon

(23/2013)

Barnes

(25/2011)

A.Carter

(32/2011)

Tarpinian

(23/2012)

Austin!

(24/2011)

Ross

(23/2011)

Ellis

(34/2011)

White

(30/2011)

Maneri!

(23/2011)

G.Warren

(??/2011)

Murrell

(??/2011)

Woods

(23/2012)

Anderson

(28/2011)

C.Morris

(28/2011)

S.Williams

(29/2011)

Compas

(25/2011)

Moore

(30/2012)

! Reserve/futures contract

Inactive players: White (WR)

Have extra 2012 1st (NO) and 2nd (OAK)

Last Edited By: amfox1 08/08/11 2:05 PM. Edited 1 time.

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charliezink16

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08/08/11 4:03 PM

I was at Jets training camp with some obnoxious Jet fan friends, and its fun to right about how bad Mark Sanchez is. He really looked awful with any pass over 10 yards, overthowing everyone past 10 yards. Really was funny to watch the most overrated QB in football continue to struggle and get hyped

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amfox1

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08/09/11 10:27 AM

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Early roster projection

QB (3) - Brady, Hoyer, Mallett*

RB (5) - BJGE, Woodhead, Vereen*, Ridley*, Faulk (out: Kettani, S.Morris, Medlin)

WR (6) - Ochocinco, Branch, Welker, Edelman, Price, Slater (out: Tate, Farnham, Jenkins, Barnes, Ross)

TE (3) - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Smith* (out: Yeatman, C.Butler)

OL (8) - Light, Mankins, Connolly, Koppen, Vollmer, Solder*, Maneri, Wendell (out: Levoir, Ohrnberger, Cannon*, Austin, Woods, C.Morris, Compas)

DL (6) - Haynesworth, Wilfork, Love, Pryor, Wright, G.Warren (out: Deaderick, Brace, S.Williams, Richard, Weston, Cohen)

DE (3) - Ellis, Moore, A.Carter (out: Anderson)

LB (7) - Mayo, Spikes, Cunningham, Fletcher, Guyton, Ninkovich, M.Carter* (out: Tarpinian, Silvestro, Lavarias, Nurse, White, Murrell)

CB (5) - McCourty, Bodden, Dowling*, Arrington, D.Butler (out: Wilhite, M.Williams*)

S (4) - Chung, Meriweather, Sanders, Brown (out: Lockett, Ventrone, Barrett)

Specialists (3) - Gostkowski, Mesko, Katula (out: Koepplin)

IR - Hix

Active PUP/NFI: Light, Cannon, Brace, Deaderick, Ellis

Practice Squad hopefuls - Yeatman, M.Williams, Tarpinian, Silvestro, Lavarias, Nurse

* 2011 draftee

Last Edited By: amfox1 08/09/11 5:19 PM. Edited 1 time.

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Arquimedez Bozo

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08/09/11 11:12 AM

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Adam, does your projection take into account the fact that, in a 4-3, Cunningham probably plays a DE rather than an OLB?

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MaleNurse2010

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08/09/11 12:13 PM

Myron Pyron is getting cut

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amfox1

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08/09/11 5:03 PM

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Arquimedez Bozo wrote:
Adam, does your projection take into account the fact that, in a 4-3, Cunningham probably plays a DE rather than an OLB?

Yes, but we may be playing a modified 4-3, or a Jets 3-4 with 4-3 spacing. I don't think it is set in stone that the Pats will always be in a 4-3.

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amfox1

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08/09/11 5:17 PM

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Reiss/Rodak roster projections, compared to mine.

http://espn.go.com/boston...53-man-roster-version-10

Reiss:

In - Tate, Ohrnberger, Weston
Out - Faulk (PUP), G.Warren, M.Carter (practice squad)
(Brace/Deaderick (PUP), Cannon (NFI))

Rodak:

In - Morris, Tate, Levoir, Austin, White, M.Williams
Out - Faulk (PUP), Price, Slater, Maneri, M.Carter (practice squad), D.Butler
(Brace/Deaderick (PUP), Cannon (NFI))

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TEXS31

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08/09/11 5:25 PM

I gotta believe they are going to try and find another S somewhere.

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amfox1

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08/09/11 6:04 PM

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8/9 - did not practice list (20/89)

Defense - Haynesworth, Wright, Spikes, Barrett, Dowling, Sanders, Ventrone
Offense - Wendell, Connolly, C.Morris, Gronkowski, Tate, Kettani, Vereen

Active/PUP or NFI - Cannon, Faulk, Light, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor

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amfox1

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08/09/11 6:19 PM

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S Ross Ventrone waived, OL Mark Wetterer claimed on waivers from CIN. NE had only ten practicing OL today.

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TEXS31

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08/10/11 2:36 PM

Might the Pats be close to making most of us very happy? Quote from Robert Kraft today: ". . . probably you'll see our good friend Logan Mankins will be signed up soon, hopefully to be a Patriot for life" ESPN/Boston.com, etc all have the full statement from the NE owner.