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Heidi Watney is lovely. I mean she is just lovely. Really nice.

She has an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it. 


  

This.

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Only Red Sox fans worry about if a player will be a free agent in three years. Enjoy the shows now, folks; worry about what happens after 2013 at least in a few months.

Oops - guess it wasn't just me as one of the biggest Sox fans of all stated today that he already tried to extend Ellsbury once and will try to do so again this off season. 

joshv02 wrote:

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Guidas wrote:

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joshv02 wrote:

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Only Red Sox fans worry about if a player will be a free agent in three years. Enjoy the shows now, folks; worry about what happens after 2013 at least in a few months.

Oops - guess it wasn't just me as one of the biggest Sox fans of all stated today that he already tried to extend Ellsbury once and will try to do so again this off season. 

I did my best to ignore your response the first time, but its too much of me to have to ignore it twice.  This will just get archived anyway as a game thread, so who cares.

Clearly, I did not argue that the Red Sox shouldn't extend Ellsbury, and clearly I did not argue that this isn't a ripe subject for discussion.  That would be stupid.  So, to argue against that is a strawman.

What I did argue - and what I'll continue to point out - is that the angst that comes with constantly bitching about the failure of the Red Sox to have signed Ellsbury is annoying when being a fan could be more fun (and certainly is for me) by just enjoying his freakin' good play.  

I like being happy when watching the Red Sox.  Its entertainment that I enjoy.  Yet, for a very large part of the Red Sox fan base (which I never observed when I was a living in other cities watching other fans, though I'm sure its true to some degree) there is a constant need to find something to harp about, something to be negative about, even when the Red Sox experience success.  When they don't, there is a constant need in the fan base - a large need - to point out the end is nigh, as if there is a collective forgetfulness that the Red Sox play (get this!) 162 games.  

I hate this constant negative outlook on all things sports.  It isn't how I grew up, I don't see how its enjoyable, and I don't see the point.  I've been reading posters like Temple for something crazy like a decade (I read the old primer therapy threads when Jim still posted and before our Kevin18 [or whatever] was banned from one of the most tolerant sports boards out there), so I can read sarcasm and read frustration as simply a bump in the road - I understand context.  I don't respond everytime someone mimics Temple's turirble exclamations.  Others, however, I see as representatives of that negative nelly who revels in days gone by, when futility could be counted on and was almost revered.

And it annoys me.  

Everything has context and I was responding to my frustration with seeing this conversation play out for the fifteenth time.

This is one of the best cores in baseball and is around for three years with just about all the players in their primes.  Enjoy it.  Its a good ride.

Wow - you're projecting a bit here Josh. Asking to keep a player around for his prime years is "negative?" Really? Actually I think calling a guy "soft" or saying "git rid of him" when he had five broken ribs last year is more easily characterized as "negative" (meanwhile, go back and check the record, I was one of the ones here defending him during that time and producing some significant medical information about the effect of multiple broken ribs on a sport like baseball). Liking the way a guy plays some much that I want to take a run at extending him - during the exact point in his career where this ownership group has extended their high-quality core players - even with Boras as his agent, is a reinforcement of what I like about this guy. It's a quest for continued sunshine and puppies and oreos with milk and high OPS and all that is good in this world. And just to allay your misgivings, fears, and other random angst, asking to keep a great player through his prime years does not in anyway diminish my enjoyment of his play. In fact, I enjoy him so much, I want to see him as a Red Sox player for his prime years. This is kinda how the Yankees made their amazing run in the late 90s and early 00s. It's smart business and smart baseball.