I have come around to liking the value of Beltre's glove, especially in that Scutaro looks like a limited range / dependable hands kind of SS. But gammo made a good point re: Beltre in his EEI interview the other day when he said (para)"I'm not sure that he'll ever see a fastball in the ALE". In spite of all the park adjustment goodness, with the quality of pitching in the AL East and his geriatric command of the strike zone, I wonder that the offensive numbers will be back.
Lowell to Rangers trade falls through
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Figgins doesn't really project to be a good defensive 2B at this point; think SEA is just driving up the price for giggles. IMO Chavo nailed it at couple
years AAV in the $9M range with a player-friendly option. But I don't think they are in any rush to sign that deal, because 1) there is just no apparent
urgency in the minds of the competitors / waiting drives prices down and 2) they probably have a few options they would like to explore. If I was able to use
Escher's Theorem to suss out one of Albert's points correctly, he is right in saying that Youks' will play very well at 3B in terms of positional
offense if they can find a 1B who is an upgrade over Beltre's O+D package.
I have come around to liking the value of Beltre's glove, especially in that Scutaro looks like a limited range / dependable hands kind of SS. But gammo made a good point re: Beltre in his EEI interview the other day when he said (para)"I'm not sure that he'll ever see a fastball in the ALE". In spite of all the park adjustment goodness, with the quality of pitching in the AL East and his geriatric command of the strike zone, I wonder that the offensive numbers will be back.
Just wanted to say that Singer has disallowed me from posting new topics ever since my Freddy Guzman thread. He seemed very upset about my opinions and was
almost hostile in his responses. He must have been upset about something else, I don't know, it was strange. Anyway, apparently he has deemed me unworthy
of starting new discussions. Do I mind? I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
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Sibby Sisti wrote: Declines always have to start somewhere. And I would argue that the decline started the year before the season you are indicating. As well, RBIs aren't a great stat to review for this - they are too dependant on the rest of the team. For the season you are describing, I would be more tempted to look at the 21 home runs from a corner infielder position in Coors Field. That's nothing to brag about. But most importantly, all his key counting stats have dropped significantly three years in a row. That's a decline; and that's why he was non-tendered. |
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Lithuanian Soxfan wrote:The decline is actually pretty easy to quantify:
Every single one of those stats has declined each of the last 4 years. He's also a subpar defensive 3B. |
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Obviously, the Sox's pursuits of Beltre and Johnson hinge on their pending trade of third baseman Mike Lowell to the Rangers. Lowell is expected to undergo a physical in Texas sometime this week. Rosenthal
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Lets get this shit going. All parties involved need to stop dragging their feet so we can get on with the damn off-season.
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mike Lowell may require thumb surgery because of years of ever playing hard and diving for balls. doesn't deserve it |
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Damn...
If true, now we are likely in the difficult position of trying to find a substitute for Mike to a team with a strong system and, Mike is going to be a giant question mark.
"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the
worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009
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Soooo... Milton Bradley for LF anyone?
"I'd like to f*ck Sandra Bullock" - Pedro, explaining his secret ambition to Sports
Illustrated for Kids.
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Milton needs Ozzie Guillen for a manager, that would be funnier than Pinella.
"According to Elias, Wang's ERA of 21.60 as a starter is the
worst ERA for the first 5 starts in the history of baseball." ... YES Network 6/11/2009
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The Rangers GM will be chatting on espn at 11:30.
http://espn.go.com/dallas...rangers-with-jon-daniels RE: Thumb injury If the injury really is serious enough to require surgery, I don't think that changes anything for the Sox, you still need to find another corner IF. So instead of paying most of his salary and getting a prospect you have dead weight on the payroll. Either way it doesn't seem likely that Mike Lowell is going to contribute very much to the 2010 Red Sox.
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The only way I want the Sox to trade Lowell for Ramirez is if he is flipped for a stud OF that could play LF (ie Werth). I think Lowell is better than anyone
we can sign (Beltre, Tejada, etc) so I have a hard time seeing the need to trade him so quickly when he is our best option at 3B.
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redsoxdiehard30 wrote:Pure speculation, but my assumption would be that the thumb injury may have the the front office believing that Mike could project as a solid backup this year but not a full-time starter, which is why he's being sold to Texas as such. Gammons tweet this morning seems to indicate that Mike may (or may not) need surgery at some point (hopefully after after the season, if at all), which presents motivation to seek out a younger, longer-term answer for third.
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Who has a bad thumb and is f'ing up the Sox off-season?
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BG (MN)How do the rangers plan on using Mike Lowell? Jon DanielsLots of Lowell questions, so let me sum the situation up here:As for the trade, nothing is final. As we've said it's something both teams are looking at and the parameters are generally understood. Still some things to work through though, and it's not a lock to happen. I expect resolution one way or the other fairly soon.If we did acquire Mike, he'd fill several roles for us. He's DH at times, play 1B at times, and give us a strong option at 3B if Mike Young needed a day or had an injury. Some of the more potent bats available for the DH spot are attractive too, but we really wanted to maintain roster flexibility and have our DH be able to play defense when needed. Depth and interchangeable parts are so important over the course of 162... He also brings an element of experience that can only help. It took him a long time to answer that question.
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I really don't want to hate Mike Lowell, but if his thumb impedes this trade from happening I might have to.
Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by
dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher.
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Why hate on Lowell?. Perhaps the thumb injury makes the Rangers hesitate on trading for him which makes Theo think twice (and hopefully a lot more times) about
signing Beltre. There might be more value for Lowell early in the 2010 season if he proves to be healthy.
Poorest spending of $3 million that I have ever seen.-fcastig 0220
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Yirmiyahu wrote: It's the World Series tax. For every one you win, you're required to sign one really bad contract to an aging clubhouse favorite.
"Jonathan Papelbon, not wasting any time, going to his bread and butter there, and that's the
cheese."- Buck Martinez
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