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stroshow3 |
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Anyone else play? I've been playing on and off for about a year and a half basically just because I enjoy it and occasionally can make some money. I started playing on Pokerroom and have sort of wandered around since they stopped taking US players. Recently, I've settled on PokerStars. I play mostly Sit & Go's with buy-ins anywhere from $5 to $60. Just curious if anyone else on here plays.
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ArodSucksAtLife |
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Quote: I'm pretty sure the President signed a law that made that illegal. *looks left and right* |
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jsinger121 |
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I on Party Poker but not for real money yet.
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amfox1 |
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Quote: forumserver.twoplustwo.co...w=1#UNREAD At the Federal level there is no law that specifically addresses online poker. For many years now the DOJ and the FBI have maintained that the Federal law known has the WIRE ACT makes online poker illegal. This law, however, has been held by two Federal Courts of Appeal to apply only to sports betting. Also, the WIRE ACT itself only criminalizes the provider of the "gambling" service, not the individual bettor. Until and unless the US Supreme Court takes a case and overturns the decisions of these Courts of Appeal, it is therefore safe to conclude that no Federal law makes online poker illegal. In the US, however, citizens are also subject to state law. A few states specifically make playing online poker illegal. Although no one has yet to be arrested under any such law, if you play online poker from one of those states, it is a crime. Most state laws say nothing about playing online or about poker specifically. Virtually all states have laws against "gambling" outside of licensed Brick and Mortar casinos. Most states define gambling as wagering on a game of chance. A game of chance is usually defined as a game where the outcome is more dependent on chance than on skill. That is still an open legal question in most states, as is whether these general anti-gambling laws apply to the internet. Further complicating the answer, in the fall of 2006, the United States passed legislation that significantly altered the landscape in the online poker arena. The SAFE Port Act included legislative language commonly referred to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIEGA). This law focused on halting the electronic transfer of money to gambling sites in relation to unlawful Internet gambling. It did not define "unlawful internet gambling" in any new way, however, instead it said unlawful internet gambling is that which was already illegal under any state or federal law. Subsequently, Party Poker withdrew from the United States market, as did many other smaller poker sites. Major electronic financial service companies such as Neteller found themselves in the middle of this and also withdrew from the market. The legislation did nothing to change the status of internet poker players and did not focus any of its efforts on penalizing or criminalizing players. Rather, the measures focused on those companies that choose to accept and process financial transactions that are deemed related to illegal internet gambling. Several major sites still allow United States players to play and there are methods for getting money into and out of these sites. Whether a site that only offers poker, and whether a money transfer to sites that only offer poker, are breaking this new law is a hotly debated question, and the answer depends on a lot of other questions involving individual state laws, foreign treaties, interstate commerce, and other issues. Under the UIGEA, the United States is also supposed to issue additional regulations relating to this law in the Summer of 2007. This may shake-up the status quo further or it may have little or no impact depending upon the specifics of the regulations and how the banks and financial services sector respond to them. |
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stroshow3 |
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Yeah pretty much what amfox said. (I like that it was the SAFE Port Act that affected online poker so much ....) Basically, many sites stopped allowing US players after the passage of the Act but there are some that still do (PokerStars, UltimateBet, Bodog, Full Tilt I think). There's basically no way for a player to get in trouble legally unless you're breaking a state law. If someone were to get in trouble it would be the site or financial situation that transferred the money although these people are pretty solidly in the clear with the current laws. This is sort of a case of the Justice Department/Administration not understanding the current law and claiming that the law does something it does not (nothing new here ....). So if anyone is worried about getting in trouble, don't. There also currently are several proposed laws which would simply clarify the legality of online poker.
jsinger, are you thinking about/planning on playing for money eventually/soon? I believe that Party Poker stopped taking US real money players, right? For anything thinking about getting into it, depositing money is not difficult. On Poker Stars and Ultimate Bet, I just deposit with my debit card and have had no problems. |
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Beat UM and UF |
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I used pokerroom too, play money though. Actually got a pretty impressive amount of (play) cash before I got a little over confident.
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Joeygmoney |
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I usually play up at Foxwoods quite a bit. hy don't we do a little SP poker tourney sometime, 20 a head. It will make a nice excuse for another meet up haha.
We are sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game but practice.
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ArodSucksAtLife |
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I made 800 dollars today, I teased Auburn and Wake Forest 6 pts, and bet on BC to cover. I then lost all of that and then some when I flopped aces up. I hate
poker so much.
"if you dont have something mean to say, dont say anything at all." -jspearlj1 |
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tdrowe |
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I hate internet poker so much. And I hate not being able to manage my bankroll well online when I'm running hot.
Varitek is out in 09 no matter what anyone says -norbit
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jsinger121 |
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Someday I wish to play online for real money but for now I will stick to play money.
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bosoxok |
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I've made the online poker rounds. I currently play on Full Tilt. I generally play sit 'n go's or knockout tournaments. I haven't been
playing a lot recently, though. However, I did get second in a poker tournament at a casino on New Year's Eve. Flopping a full house with pocket jacks
made my day!
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amfox1 |
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I finished 16th in the PokerStars SCOOP pot limit Omaha high/low tourney last night (2100+ runners), after final tabling an earlier PLO8 tourney earlier in the
day. I have been on a roll in PLO8 tourneys lately.
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amfox1 |
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Won a $5k seat to the 2010 WSOP on Wednesday night at a client's poker tournament by finishing 2nd of 250 players. Am playing in selected FTOPS events on
Full Tilt this week.
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jsinger121 |
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Amfox please correct me if I am wrong but the 5k event is one of the side games outside of the main event?
I'll be there, watching the Sox representation of mid-rotation starters. -TheGoldenGreek33 on Casey Kelly
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amfox1 |
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Yes. The world championship events are typically $10k. In this year's WSOP, there were ten $10,000 events, including the Main Event, and six $5,000 events,
including the Ante Up for Africa charity event.
For a number of reasons, including the fact that I would need to be prepared to stay in Las Vegas for two weeks, I cannot play in the Main Event. Most WSOP events are run over three days. This year, I was planning to play in the $5k Pot Limit Omaha 8 or Better event (my best game), but had to cancel because of work. Next year, assuming they run the same event, I would likely use the seat for that event. I may be able to use the seat as 50% payment for a $10k event - I have not had that discussion with the client and likely won't until the schedule comes out early next year. |
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jsinger121 |
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Nice. Wish you the best of luck. Love when they have poker on ESPN.
I'll be there, watching the Sox representation of mid-rotation starters. -TheGoldenGreek33 on Casey Kelly
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Arquimedez Bozo |
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Well, while we're talking about the WSOP, the final table starts in two hours.
Seriously though, how happy do you think the poker Powers that Be were that Phil Ivey (or basically, any of the "big name" players) made the final table?
"They should go to soxprospect so BOZO THE CLOWN and the rest of THE WANTS TO BE will give you some
information" - legendary words from a legendary man
"By the way I like the Canadian accent of Chris Hatfield" - the other Charlie Zink guy |
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tdrowe |
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Congrats, Adam. PLO8 is truly a great game; my favorite as well. I'd like to play an event in the WSOP next year, but I'm not sure if I'll get the
chance next summer or not. In any event, best of luck with that. How have you been doing on FT recently? The 5/10 PLO8 ring games have been really soft
recently. You should check 'em out if you haven't already.
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amfox1 |
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tdrowe wrote:Just finished a deepish run in the FTOPS $240+$16 knockout (225/4600+). Bubbled two other FTOPS events (7-game, Stud/8). Unfortunately, the FTOPS PLO8 is tomorrow (Mon.) afternoon, so timing does not work.
Last Edited By: amfox1 11/08/09 9:29 PM.
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tdrowe |
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~45 bucks an hour on a Sunday in the comfort of your home isn't too bad, I guess.
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