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jspearlj1		#21	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 4909 10/23/09 8:10 AM	The better move was to stick with Weaver. He was filthy in the 8th last night, his curve was breaking big he was changing speeds on his FB with good movement and location, there was absolutely no reason to take him out other than because Fuentes has the "closer" designation.
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raftsox		#22	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1374 10/23/09 8:42 AM	I hope this post-season makes the rest of the world realize that Scoscia is not a good manager. I am speechless. ...this site is not intended to be a place where you post every ridiculous and half-formed thought that comes into your head. ... You should post less. - AMarshal2
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adiospaydro2005		#23	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1513 10/23/09 10:20 AM Veteran Member	raftsox wrote: I hope this post-season makes the rest of the world realize that Scoscia is not a good manager. Scioscia and Giardi = Dumb and Dumber Poorest spending of $3 million that I have ever seen.-fcastig 0220
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WillyCoPapi3		#24	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3881 10/23/09 2:28 PM Veteran Member	I feel the need to make a declaration: after watching last night's game, I will never complain about Tito again. If I do, you guys can choose my new sig. Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher. -FenwayTheHardWay
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amfox1		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6281 10/23/09 3:01 PM Senior Forum Moderator	mredsox89 wrote: Forever Red 9 wrote: I don't care if it's ARod, you don't put the tying run on base intentionally with 2 outs in the 9th. I hope the Yankees make them pay for this. That's what I said. I don't care how hot A-rod has been hitting but you never put the tying run on base and bring the go ahead run to the plate. At most, you pitch around A-rod and see if he can chase something down and away. Girardi can't seem to win with the way he handles his pitching staff. This. Girardi is a terrible in-game manager.
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amfox1		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6282 10/23/09 3:03 PM Senior Forum Moderator	jspearlj1 wrote: The better move was to stick with Weaver. He was filthy in the 8th last night, his curve was breaking big he was changing speeds on his FB with good movement and location, there was absolutely no reason to take him out other than because Fuentes has the "closer" designation. I think that the one inning was done to allow Weaver to come back for a potential Game 7. If you pitch him more than an inning, you probably lose him as a potential Game 7 starter. Just a guess.
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FenwayTheHardWay		#27	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1598 10/23/09 3:04 PM Veteran Member	amfox1 wrote: jspearlj1 wrote: The better move was to stick with Weaver. He was filthy in the 8th last night, his curve was breaking big he was changing speeds on his FB with good movement and location, there was absolutely no reason to take him out other than because Fuentes has the "closer" designation. I think that the one inning was done to allow Weaver to come back for a potential Game 7. If you pitch him more than an inning, you probably lose him as a potential Game 7 starter. Just a guess. You don't save a pitcher for tomorrow. Tomorrow it may rain. - Leo Durocher "Jonathan Papelbon, not wasting any time, going to his bread and butter there, and that's the cheese."- Buck Martinez
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ArodSucksAtLife		#28	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3720 10/23/09 3:10 PM Veteran Member	WillyCoPapi3 wrote: I feel the need to make a declaration: after watching last night's game, I will never complain about Tito again. If I do, you guys can choose my new sig. You think I won't remember this, but I will and it will be glorious. I am in love with Clayton Kershaw. I want him in me. - Curll84
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Nexus		#29	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 241 10/23/09 3:12 PM	amfox1 wrote: jspearlj1 wrote: The better move was to stick with Weaver. He was filthy in the 8th last night, his curve was breaking big he was changing speeds on his FB with good movement and location, there was absolutely no reason to take him out other than because Fuentes has the "closer" designation. I think that the one inning was done to allow Weaver to come back for a potential Game 7. If you pitch him more than an inning, you probably lose him as a potential Game 7 starter. Just a guess. When has Scioscia ever gone with someone other than his closer? Plus, why walk Arod to get to Matsui? He has done nothing but smash lefthanded pitching this year (.618 SLG).
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ancientsoxfogey		#30	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 4376 10/23/09 6:59 PM Veteran Member	Leo Durocher was a pretty smart cookie, but he was wrong here. This has been discussed previously. When you are in a win or go home situation and need to win multiple games, your best move is the one that gives you the highest overall chances of winning ALL the games you need to win -- which may not be the same strategy as the one that maximizes your chances of winning the current game. Because it doesn't matter whether you lose this game or a future one you need to win, you're done either way.
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jspearlj1		#31	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 4910 10/23/09 7:24 PM	I think that the one inning was done to allow Weaver to come back for a potential Game 7. If you pitch him more than an inning, you probably lose him as a potential Game 7 starter. Just a guess. I thought of that as well after I posted it but he only threw 11 pitches, I'd imagine another 15 or so pitches wouldn't kill him for a potential Game 7 where all hands are on deck.
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adiospaydro2005		#32	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1514 10/25/09 10:03 AM Veteran Member	The MFYs are making a big mistake starting Pettitte vs. Sabathia in Game 6. They have a better chance of closing out the Angels in 6 games with Sabathia pitching and still could have him start game 2 of the World Series. Now if they lose game 6 they have to pitch Sabathia in game 7 and then he won't be available until game 3 of the World Series. All the pressure is on the MFYs tonight. P-If Scioscia was smart (which he is not), he won't pitch Fuentes tonight as he can't handle the playoff pressure, particularly in Yankee Stadium. Poorest spending of $3 million that I have ever seen.-fcastig 0220
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mpaxisa		#33	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 108 10/25/09 11:37 AM	adiospaydro2005 wrote: The MFYs are making a big mistake starting Pettitte vs. Sabathia in Game 6. They have a better chance of closing out the Angels in 6 games with Sabathia pitching and still could have him start game 2 of the World Series. Now if they lose game 6 they have to pitch Sabathia in game 7 and then he won't be available until game 3 of the World Series. All the pressure is on the MFYs tonight. P-If Scioscia was smart (which he is not), he won't pitch Fuentes tonight as he can't handle the playoff pressure, particularly in Yankee Stadium. I don't agree with that. If they start Sabathia tonight, he'd only be available for two starts in the WS if they make it. At least Pettitte gives them a chance to throw CC three times against the LHB heavy Phillies. Pettitte's no Sabathia, but it's not like they're passing up CC to start Chad Gaudin.
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DCRi		#34	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1155 10/25/09 12:20 PM Veteran Member	I don't know if it has been noted here previously, but if the Yankees make the WS, Eric Hinske will be with his third WS team in three years, the Sox, the Rays and now the Yanks. I wonder if that is a first?
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soxprospects		#35	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7093 10/25/09 2:29 PM Mike Andrews Editor-in-Chief SoxProspects.com	Don Baylor 86 - Boston 87 - Minnesota 88 - Oakland
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adiospaydro2005		#36	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1515 10/25/09 6:09 PM Veteran Member	mpaxisa wrote: adiospaydro2005 wrote: The MFYs are making a big mistake starting Pettitte vs. Sabathia in Game 6. They have a better chance of closing out the Angels in 6 games with Sabathia pitching and still could have him start game 2 of the World Series. Now if they lose game 6 they have to pitch Sabathia in game 7 and then he won't be available until game 3 of the World Series. All the pressure is on the MFYs tonight. P-If Scioscia was smart (which he is not), he won't pitch Fuentes tonight as he can't handle the playoff pressure, particularly in Yankee Stadium. I don't agree with that. If they start Sabathia tonight, he'd only be available for two starts in the WS if they make it. At least Pettitte gives them a chance to throw CC three times against the LHB heavy Phillies. Pettitte's no Sabathia, but it's not like they're passing up CC to start Chad Gaudin. The MFYs might not have to worry about the World Series if they lose tonight. Additionally, if the MFYs lose the ALCS I could see both Girardi and Cashman getting fired. Perhaps an omen for things to come.... Cracks Emerge in Ramps at New Yankee Stadium http://www.nytimes.com/20...gion/24stadium.html?_r=2 Poorest spending of $3 million that I have ever seen.-fcastig 0220 Last Edited By: adiospaydro2005 10/25/09 6:21 PM. Edited 2 times.
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WillyCoPapi3		#37	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3882 10/25/09 8:44 PM Veteran Member	That's just Vlad showing us how the Angels play the game the right way. Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher. -FenwayTheHardWay
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mredsox89		#38	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 771 10/25/09 9:41 PM	WillyCoPapi3 wrote: That's just Vlad showing us how the Angels play the game the right way. Its ridiculous. I don't believe they made a single mental error in any facet in the ALDS but that is at least 5 that have happened through 5+ games.
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WillyCoPapi3		#39	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3883 10/25/09 9:56 PM Veteran Member	Saunders is such garbage. Although to be honest I'm having a really tough time being upset about the Angels losing. Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher. -FenwayTheHardWay
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ArodSucksAtLife		#40	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3721 10/25/09 10:10 PM Veteran Member	Watching A-rod say 'that pitch was a strike' makes me love him a little more. I am in love with Clayton Kershaw. I want him in me. - Curll84
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