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Posts: 1048 08/20/09 11:27 AM |
Seeing him continue to put quality starts back-to-back-to-back like this is fantastic, and leads one to believe that he's putting it together like most
thought he would........well, except those on the first page of this thread who already jumped off this bandwagon. It's awesome watching it coming
together for this kid.
Keep it up Clay! |
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Posts: 950 08/20/09 12:09 PM |
buffs44444 wrote: Granted it's small sample sizes, but it does seem as if it is finally coming together for Buchholz. The interesting thing about it is that it's coming together in a way we did not expect, as he has adopted a powerful 2-seamer to set up his other pitches. Sure, Clay could add the curve back into his repetoire as a strikeout pitch on a more consistent basis (likely not until next season), but as of now, Clay is becoming a quite different successful pitcher than the one we anticipated. The control and break of Clay's fastball sets up his masterful changeup beautifully, and allows him to keep the ball on the ground, which would play up better on a better defensive team, but his current repetoire is one that still plays up as an ace starter if he can continue to refine his command and "pitchability" with experience. Clay seems very poised both on the mound and in the dugout and in the media than ever before. This goes to show that a prospect who has tons of potential and great pure stuff can work things out by constantly adapting his game and adding new weapons. Clay really seems to be a different pitcher than we envisioned, but is still capable of putting up the sterling results we hoped for. For those who thought his value would never be higher than it was in 07 or even again at the 09 trade deadline will be silenced if CB continues on his current trajectory. |
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Posts: 462 08/20/09 12:39 PM |
If only Clay's curve was in 07 form the Red Sox would have 3 aces going into the playoffs. Though I'll take 2 ones and a three.
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Posts: 1037 08/20/09 12:42 PM Veteran Member |
MaleNurse2010 wrote: I don't know, I think I'd prefer to stick with the sick tailing action on a low-to-mid-90s fastball, coupled with his change, and the ability to dabble in a tight curve in spots where he needs it.
"Things happen in Boston." -Joe Morgan
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Posts: 4158 08/20/09 5:28 PM Veteran Member |
Nobody's mentioned how ironic it is that, after the Sox couldn't consummate a deal for Halladay that would certainly have included Buchholz, that he
beats Halladay in their first meeting afterward. Can you imagine the hubbub there would have been on this board if the trade would have gone down and the
results last night had been reversed?
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Posts: 584 08/20/09 5:59 PM |
ancientsoxfogey wrote: Who cares? It didn't happen that way at all and spending any sort of energy thinking about what "could have been" is a bit....silly. Natural, but misplaced effort in my mind. |
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johnsilver62 |
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Posts: 293 08/21/09 12:02 AM |
Just glad that Bucholz is putting the horrible 2008 season behind him and getting himself together his last 3 starts this year. Hopefully, when/if Matsuzak
returns this year, Bucholz will remain in the rotation also, rather than have to endure "teething" pains of getting Matsuzaka back to MLB form, when
Buch is looking like the top guy most always thought he was.
On another note.. Isn't it nice to have Bucholz for 5 more years at SOME kind of level, rather than Halladay for 1 yr and 2 months, while the cost would have been far more than Bucholz??? |
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Posts: 108 08/21/09 2:06 AM |
The title of this thread is now invalid.
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Posts: 240 08/21/09 3:15 AM |
SoxSail wrote:Premature in every way to give up on him, premature in most ways to declare him a major league success. He's going to struggle again. Let's stick with the title as is, I believe he's got as good a chance as anyone to be a very good major league pitcher. |
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ziggyosk41 |
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Posts: 2022 08/30/09 2:23 PM |
Last night's start gives reason to believe. Hopefully he keeps building his confidence.
Impact. Dominate.
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Posts: 4187 08/30/09 2:35 PM Veteran Member |
Hopefully so, because I am convinced that he is the key to the pitching staff for the rest of this year.
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When he has command of 3 pitches, he's very good. His success will depend on his ability to pitch like last night more often.
aminahyaquin: Alou is a 37 year old 7 time MVP with a .347 lifetime batting average and a world of hustle. he
can golden glove field in his sleep.
tGG: Alou is actually 42, has never won an MVP, has a .303 lifetime batting average, and is mediocre at best in the field. joshv02: But, other than that, you're wrong. |
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Posts: 277 08/30/09 3:46 PM |
AMarshal2 wrote: If he shows good command of his 3 pitches like last night, he's an ace. His stuff is nasty. |
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mpaxisa |
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Posts: 66 08/30/09 4:50 PM |
Buchholz against Toronto (3 games): 3-0, 1.35 ERA, 0.950 WHIP
Buchholz against not Toronto (6 games): 0-3, 6.12 ERA, 1.856 WHIP I don't know what that means, but I do know he was going to shut down just about anyone with that stuff last night. |
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Posts: 1001 08/30/09 11:42 PM |
Now if only CB can add a gyroball...
Clay's quicker tempo may be just the thing that makes him a guy the Sox can depend on in the playoffs. His ever-increasing poise and positive demeanor make him invaluable for the next (hopefully) two months.
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