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Posts: 2199 07/23/09 3:40 PM Chris Mellen
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Posts: 52 07/24/09 8:57 AM |
These are terrific, Cem! This site has always been good, but the improvements this year take it to a whole new level. And my very favorite innovation is the Ladder. It's short enough so that the reader can focus while long enough to give some depth to your analysis. Thanks you! WaterView |
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Posts: 7728 07/24/09 4:55 PM Chris Hatfield
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Agreed that these are great. Before anyone else asks "What do we think of X Prospect?", please take a gander at The Ladder first.
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Posts: 2291 08/05/09 7:28 AM Chris Mellen
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Posts: 2327 08/12/09 12:12 PM Chris Mellen
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Posts: 2344 08/19/09 3:39 PM Chris Mellen
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Posts: 2371 08/26/09 11:19 AM Chris Mellen
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Posts: 71 08/26/09 11:51 AM |
Cem21 wrote: Excellent, as always, Cem. I look forward to reading it every week and this is no exception (was glad to see more on two pitchers taken in the last two drafts). Your Trending Up and Trending Down elements are alwasy interesting; I'd noticed Alvarez's line with Lowell, so was pleased to hear a bit more on him (and on Pichardo). Speaking of the latter, the speed on the Lowell team this season is astonishing, with Pichardo (24 SB for 31), Gibson (25 for 29) and Westmoreland (19 for 19) (hardly worth mentioning Bermudez with 11 for 13). Anyway, great job as always. How many more of these can we look forward to?
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Posts: 2372 08/26/09 1:04 PM Chris Mellen
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Appreciate the feedback, WaterView. There will definitely be another column next week and we'll see how the year can be wrapped up following that.
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Posts: 256 08/26/09 2:30 PM |
Cem, on the subject of steals, I know you had stated earlier in the year that these guys were stealing bases due to their athleticism and they weren't
necessarily good base stealers yet. Have you noticed a difference as the year has gone on in their baserunning development?
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Posts: 187 08/26/09 3:08 PM |
regarding Alex Wilson:Just curious, but what is a 9/3 curveball? You hear a lot about 12/6, 11/5, or 1/7 (depending on left or right handed), but I've never heard of a 9/3 curve. It sounds like you'd need to be a sidearming lefty to even approach that! |
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Posts: 2373 08/26/09 3:23 PM Chris Mellen
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JT- They've been improving in that aspect. I've noticed that they've gotten better jumps and better reads as the season has gone along. Gibson has
had more clean steals (that I've personally seen) later in the year than earlier. Both Westmoreland and Gibson have stuck out to me with their improvement
as base stealers. Pichardo has been more inconclusive in that regard as he hasn't stolen that much when I have been there. I know Tom Goodwin has been
working with the three in regards to that part of their games a lot as well.
Lefty- That is Weiland in that quote not Wilson. His curve really has more of a slider break to it. It is kind of a hybrid pitch and I have seen it referred to as a slider on other occasions. It's got a little bit larger break than a slider, but it isn't like a true curve as well and he throws it harder.
Last Edited By: Cem21 08/26/09 3:54 PM.
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Posts: 207 08/26/09 5:05 PM Veteran Member |
So in other words, his pitch is more of a slurve?
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Posts: 2377 08/27/09 9:14 AM Chris Mellen
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As a clarification on Weiland's repertoire, I have some updated scouting information from this season:
In addition to his fastball and change-up, Weiland has been scouted to throw two types of breaking balls. The first is a traditional curveball with about 11/5 break and that comes in mid-70's. The second is a high 70's to low 80's slider, that looks more like a slurve as it has a little bit bigger break than a slider. Sometimes, pitchers will get on the side of their curve and spin it a little harder compounded with varying release points, but it can also be by design and he may from time to time actually mix in a slider. It is difficult during the development period of pitchers in their early careers when they are scouted to get a really good feel for what they are trying to do. I made the assumption the times I have seen him that the harder breaking ball is a result of him not finishing his curve. A report passed onto me documents it as two different pitches, with the curveball graded as the better pitch. |
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