JimRiceRocks wrote:Defense edge goes to Tim. His arm and quick release kept the steals-against down. Offense is a little closer. Tim had more power; Expo had more speed. Catching being a thinking man's position, I think Fed-Ex will do better in the long run. I like them both; we would do well with either one.
p.s. - drivfan, having seen both of these guys come through Greenville, what are your observations on the differences?
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Luis Exposito: Catcher of the Future?
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Posts: 188 08/26/09 2:28 PM Contributing Photographer |
Iglesias (from Adam Foster): # Just saw Iglesias miss a grounder for the first time ever. A two-headed albino alligator was conceived simultaneously. |
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Posts: 7 08/26/09 2:38 PM |
yes if the red sox were a small market team, but they aren't which means unless you are something pretty special for the most part they are not saving a
seat for you. Expo has been great in his AA stint thus far,but he won't be ready to contribute to the club until probably the 2011 season ,prior to which
JOE MAUER will be a free agent and the only teams that should come close to his asking price(probably texeira -esque) will be the Hankees and the Red sox,but
with the Hankees grooming Jesus Montero (in AA at age 19) he looks like the perfect fit leaving the red sox to have a spending spree .personally I would rather
go get Mauer and use expo possibly as A trade chip or a backup/platoon catcher as opposed to saving him a seat behind the plate and crown him catcher of the
future(i do like him alot though)
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Posts: 186 08/26/09 2:53 PM |
back2basix3593 wrote:1) consensus is that Montero will not stick behind the plate 2) Even if Montero can stick behind the plate, there is no way the Yankees pass on Mauer because of the presence of Montero 3) There is a very real chance the Mauer stays with the Twins, as Mauer is a local product who loves it there. 4) The Red Sox would be exceedingly foolish to make any plans for the future regarding the catcher position with the assumption that they will be signing. |
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Posts: 8 08/26/09 3:11 PM |
i am not saying get mauer's plane ticket ready ,i am saying that it is ridiculous IMO to claim that expo is the future at catcher and also montero
can't go to 1st and i cant imagine he starts off as a DH ,again if i were the hankees i would have him take over for posada and there is not a very real
chance he stays with the twins 160 million on the FA market compared to what the twins offer ,im assuming he also wants to win.when mauer is a free agent we
will see how many people on this site will be screaming for expo to start next year if you consider the decline of papi, drew being a bust ,lack of production
from SS and the fact that bay might leave at the end of the season i think there is more than enough concern to warrent a mauer signing and as you said it
would be ridiculous to pass on mauer due to expo a non-top 10 prospect so if you want to hand him the job after a month in AA then there is a reason you're
not involved in those decisions
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Posts: 80 08/26/09 3:22 PM |
back2basix3593 wrote:FYP. Well, made it readable anyway... Couldn't really fix the logic... Please, I beg you, make your posts readable. I'm not really huge on the capitalization (though others, including mods, are), but I think punctuation is pretty much required if you want anybody to be able to understand what you're saying. |
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Posts: 10 08/26/09 3:25 PM |
While I respect your right to have an opinion back2basix, I would hardly label JD Drew a bust. Not worth 15 million, sure. But thats a topic for another
thread. On top of that, no one here is suggesting "handing expo the starting job." Rather, we are taking a look at the organization, and making a
decision as to whether Exposito is capable of being the "catcher of the future" ie. whether he is going to be the best catcher in the organization,
and capable of being the starting catcher of the Boston Red Sox. Personally, I would like to see at least a half year to a year of production out of him at the
AA level before I think of considering him a starter for the Red Sox in the future. I like him very much, though.
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Posts: 8311 08/26/09 3:32 PM Chris Hatfield Executive Editor SoxProspects.com |
mseskin, thanks, but let the moderators do the moderating.
back2basix3593, welcome to the site, but pretend this post says everything that mseskin's did. We're big on simple things like spelling, punctuation, capitalization, etc. here. |
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Will do. Had to do the edit so I could see what he was saying, so figured I'd post to help others.
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Posts: 9 08/26/09 3:42 PM |
Sorry guys, I was typing from my phone ,so sorry about that.
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Even with the Pohlad family running the show, the Twins will do everything to make sure Mauer is their C well beyond 2010. I don't know if Jim Pohlad will
be as cheap as his father, but they do have a new outdoor park coming and some money coming off the books after '10.
Here's an interview question with Jim Pohlad the day after his father passed this year: Q: Is Joe Mauer a candidate for a "legacy contract," where you make sure you keep him?link |
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Posts: 10 08/26/09 3:50 PM |
rodstero4 wrote:Agreed. "bust" was the wrong word to describe him, I simply meant compared to what was expected of him at least offensively ,just hasn't happened. I am not trying to throw him under the bus. A better word may have been "disappointment"
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Posts: 13 08/26/09 5:38 PM |
A quick breakdown of Drew's offensive contributions as far as OPS:
career: .891 Red Sox: .855 So I think "disappointing" is pretty fair. Although take into account that he faced some difficult family issues his first year with the team and has been better since then. As far as Mauer goes. The Red Sox have two catchers who's contracts will be up by the same time Mauer becomes a free agent. So I would expect the Twins, Yankees and Red Sox to all make a strong push. Although they really shouldn't leave all theri eggs in one basket. So the depth at catcher in the minors is a good fallback incase they can't get Mauer, who any baseball would have to agree is currently the best catcher and will likely command a contract in the neighborhood of 7 years 150 mil or so. |
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Posts: 3751 08/26/09 5:40 PM Veteran Member |
drivfan08 wrote: Really? I was under the impression that Exposito is perceived as being the better offensive/having the higher power potential between the two.
Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by
dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher.
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Posts: 189 08/26/09 7:43 PM Contributing Photographer |
WillyCoPapi3 wrote:My comments are not concerning potential but instead what performance I had seen when they played for Greenville. Some of the power difference could be Expo's younger age when he was with the team. Either catcher is solid but I would lean toward Fed-Ex because of the way he worked with the pitching staff and his defense is a tad better. Iglesias (from Adam Foster): # Just saw Iglesias miss a grounder for the first time ever. A two-headed albino alligator was conceived simultaneously. |
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Posts: 3753 08/26/09 7:50 PM Veteran Member |
Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Why would we ever PH for Varitek? I mean, what if we PH for him, and it goes to extras, and vic martinez gets eaten by
dinosaurs? We'd have to use the emergency catcher.
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Posts: 260 08/26/09 9:55 PM |
Kalish, and Exposito were two interesting additions to the AFL roster. Kalish had a horrid start at AA, but has turned it on. The Red Sox need to find out if
this is just a fluke, or if he's really a future corner OF. Exposito needs to show that he really is the catcher of the future. It will be interesting to
see how he compares to other catching prospects such as Norris, Romine, and Posey. Interestingly enough, a possible trade option for the Red Sox is
Exposito's teammate, Hank Conger.
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Posts: 43 08/27/09 7:56 AM |
drivfan08 wrote: I think their performances in Greenville were too close to call both offensively and defensively. It is way too premature to pick one over the other. The real proof is how they adjust to AA ball. Expo is seemingly making a good transition. Fed-X has yet to prove himself at that level. |
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Posts: 76 08/27/09 9:54 AM |
One guy no one's really talked about is Ryan Lavarnway, who has the best present power among himself, Luis Exposito, and Tim Federowicz. Obviously, he is
by far the least-advanced catcher defensively, as evidenced by his 24 passed balls this season (which is alarming). But keep in mind that he split time between
catching and playing the outfield while he was at Yale and did not become a full-time catcher until his junior year, I believe. So he is relatively new to the
position and could probably grow there. He also was suffering from a wrist injury when the Red Sox drafted him and spent most of his time at Lowell as a DH, so
this year is really his first year catching.
I haven't had a chance to see him behind the plate yet. How does he look? Is he as bad as his passed ball total suggests? |
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Posts: 44 08/27/09 9:59 AM |
blackwaternoise wrote: In watching him, he is not as polished as Expo or Fed-X. On one throw down to second I remember, he made a lurch toward the 3B side before throwing rather than directing all his motion toward 2B; admittedly only one incident but indication of a lack of polish. His reactions toward low balls aren't as quick as his predecessors. Arm is not as strong as the other two. With more polish, he could correct these, it seems. |
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Posts: 1259 08/27/09 11:44 AM |
gfur732 wrote: I'm referring to the fact that he's already a very large person with not-so-good speed.
I am speechless. ...this site is not intended to be a place where you post every ridiculous and half-formed thought that comes into your head.
... You should post less. - AMarshal2
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