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Adam Laroche traded to the Sox for Strickland and Diaz

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Ellsbury 46.niketalk		#141	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 22 07/23/09 3:50 AM	i never said that but there is a chance we trade carter and a good chance we trade also travis denker or gil velasquez or dusty brown are gonna get cut cause we have to free up space on the 40 man roster and those are the guys that dont fit in the redsox plans denker probably the most likely to go
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TokenWilliams		#142	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 345 07/23/09 5:41 AM	JimRiceRocks wrote: templeUsox wrote: That was a really poorly written post. I'm not ever sure what most of it means. Exactly what I was thinking. Ramble much? "I can't believe the 7 pages of almost all nonsense i just read" So you decided to step it up a notch? I don't think people are all giddy about Laroche, just that it was a decent deal. Other than that, I have no idea what you're saying. I think there's a reason I passed out after posting that... my appologies. My reading comp skills were probably right up there with my writing skills at the time. It's completely a Zero risk decent reward type of deal. Nothing to be overly excited about, but certainly nothing to be upset about. Rios is still terrible.
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Arquimedez Bozo		#143	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7712 07/23/09 7:29 AM Chris Hatfield Executive Editor SoxProspects.com	Ellsbury 46 wrote: i never said that but there is a chance we trade carter and a good chance we trade also travis denker or gil velasquez or dusty brown are gonna get cut cause we have to free up space on the 40 man roster and those are the guys that dont fit in the redsox plans denker probably the most likely to go I feel like an English teacher the past couple days... Capitalization, punctuation, grammar, etc. please.
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soxphd		#144	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 47 07/23/09 9:29 AM	Pantera wrote: The debate rages His defense is not below average according to multiple scouting reports I've read AMarshall. Amarshall's response. He's been negative in UZR 5/6 years in his career. Keith Law apparently sided with Amarshall, calling LaRoche a "below average 1st baseman" He's got a chat on tommorow so perhaps someone could ask him for a more complete answer. If he answers, I'd be surprised if the answer just refers to UZR. I've done a fair bit more reading about his defense after feeling like a fool for not looking up the exact stats that were out there the first time around and I came across an interesting piece of information. He's made one error in 836 chances at first base which obviously that takes into account all the balls thrown directly to him on ground-outs. So from what I can tell, his range is poor but when he does get to a ball he's probably not going to screw it up. In the end, he's probably not going to be Doug Mientkiewicz part II.
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GuapoGuapo		#145	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 1014 07/23/09 10:45 AM	Nice move at a reasonable cost. Gives us the luxury of putting Lowell on the DL, which seems likely at some point over the next few months, maybe even now. "I just really enjoy reading, man. It's totally a good way to stay centered." - Lars
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Lippett.denverpostsports		#146	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 25 07/23/09 12:04 PM	Funny, but during the time it was undetermined who Boston was giving up in the LaRoche trade, the name that kept bouncing around in my head was Feliux Doubrant. Just kinda thought that might be the level of prospect Pittsburgh would require...and Theo would be willing to part with...to get the deal done. Then last night, Doubrant goes out and throws a CG, 4-hit shutout w/ 0 BB's and 10 K's. The kid's only 21 and has put up very respectable numbers @ AA Portland. He may not be the "high ceiling" prospect that some say Kelly & Pimentel are but, IMO, those are suspect projections in the first place. What we do know is the kid is young and has done well at AA. At this point, he may even be a year ahead of his age projection. Glad Boston held on to him.
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ctsports		#147	[url]	[-]
Rookie Posts: 7 07/23/09 12:12 PM	Doubront looked to be in complete control. He wasn't over-powering (high 80s early and low 90s through the middle innings) but had the Rock Cats off-balance all evening. He came across as a pitcher - poised and in charge of his entire repetoire - rather than a thrower. It was an impressive performance given his age and level.
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blumj		#148	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 807 07/23/09 12:14 PM	If they're just going to put Lowell back on the DL to make room for LaRoche, then there's no offensive upgrade here. LaRoche should be platooned, and Lowell's a better option to platoon him with than Lowrie, which would keep Green in the lineup with Lowrie, which is almost exactly the same as leaving Kotsay in the lineup.
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Yirmiyahu		#149	[url]	[-]
Posts: 117 07/23/09 1:03 PM Forum Moderator	blumj wrote: If they're just going to put Lowell back on the DL to make room for LaRoche, then there's no offensive upgrade here. LaRoche should be platooned, and Lowell's a better option to platoon him with than Lowrie, which would keep Green in the lineup with Lowrie, which is almost exactly the same as leaving Kotsay in the lineup. What are you saying here? They are not going to place Lowell on the DL to make room for LaRoche. LaRoche will be used to give Lowell frequent days off and as insurance in case Lowell is re-injured. The "offensive upgrade" is LaRoche over Kotsay.
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ancientsoxfogey		#150	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 3907 07/23/09 3:03 PM Veteran Member	Well, someone has to be removed. Right now the 25 man roster has 26 men on it, without counting Wake, and with Lugo gone.
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Yirmiyahu		#151	[url]	[-]
Posts: 119 07/23/09 3:13 PM Forum Moderator	ancientsoxfogey wrote: Well, someone has to be removed. Right now the 25 man roster has 26 men on it, without counting Wake, and with Lugo gone. It has to be Kotsay, who has no role whatsoever on this team once LaRoche arrives. Unless there's an injury floating around that no one has mentioned. Maybe they'll DL Kotsay to rest his calf, in order to give themselves roster flexibility until things are sorted out with the trade deadline.
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DCRi		#152	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 940 07/23/09 3:27 PM Veteran Member	That's not exactly true. Without Kotsay the Sox have only Baldelli as an OF backup. Sure, Youk can play almost anywhere in a pinch, but only in an emergency would they put him in the OF. Remember, Lugo also could play the OF so the Sox really had three OF reserves while he was around. So now the OF situation is a little snug. It is a risk I think they should take, but it is there.
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Yirmiyahu		#153	[url]	[-]
Posts: 120 07/23/09 3:41 PM Forum Moderator	DCRi wrote: That's not exactly true. Without Kotsay the Sox have only Baldelli as an OF backup. Sure, Youk can play almost anywhere in a pinch, but only in an emergency would they put him in the OF. Remember, Lugo also could play the OF so the Sox really had three OF reserves while he was around. So now the OF situation is a little snug. It is a risk I think they should take, but it is there. I'll put it this way: Kotsay shouldn't have a role on this team anymore. He's only played 45 innings in the outfield this year, and I'm assuming almost all of those were when Baldelli was on the DL. Baldelli is a fine fielder at all 3 outfield positions. If he gets injured, we can call someone up. And in a pinch, Drew plays an adequate CF.
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blumj		#154	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 808 07/23/09 4:08 PM	Yirmiyahu wrote: DCRi wrote: That's not exactly true. Without Kotsay the Sox have only Baldelli as an OF backup. Sure, Youk can play almost anywhere in a pinch, but only in an emergency would they put him in the OF. Remember, Lugo also could play the OF so the Sox really had three OF reserves while he was around. So now the OF situation is a little snug. It is a risk I think they should take, but it is there. I'll put it this way: Kotsay shouldn't have a role on this team anymore. He's only played 45 innings in the outfield this year, and I'm assuming almost all of those were when Baldelli was on the DL. Baldelli is a fine fielder at all 3 outfield positions. If he gets injured, we can call someone up. And in a pinch, Drew plays an adequate CF. Okay, it's an emergency, Kotsay is long gone, and they need to call up someone who can play CF/RF. Who would they call up?
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Arquimedez Bozo		#155	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7721 07/23/09 4:12 PM Chris Hatfield Executive Editor SoxProspects.com	blumj wrote: Okay, it's an emergency, Kotsay is long gone, and they need to call up someone who can play CF/RF. Who would they call up? Call me crazy, but Reddick would be first on my list. Bubba Bell is also an option.
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DCRi		#156	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 941 07/23/09 4:12 PM Veteran Member	Guzman, Bell or Reddick. All can field the positions, which is the first most important thing. Who knows, one or more might hit better than Kotsay.
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Arquimedez Bozo		#157	[url]	[-]
Posts: 7722 07/23/09 4:18 PM Chris Hatfield Executive Editor SoxProspects.com	Yeah, I don't know why I left out Guzman. Before you scoff, note that he's at least playing well enough that the Sox were ok with releasing Jonathan Van Every (I don't see why he wouldn't have accepted an assignment to Pawtucket if all he's doing is rehabbing anyway).
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blumj		#158	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 809 07/23/09 4:28 PM	Arquimedez Bozo wrote: Yeah, I don't know why I left out Guzman. Before you scoff, note that he's at least playing well enough that the Sox were ok with releasing Jonathan Van Every (I don't see why he wouldn't have accepted an assignment to Pawtucket if all he's doing is rehabbing anyway). Does that matter, since he's out for the season, anyway? I just assumed they could and might want to re-sign him if he's interested in coming back. Or, was I wrong about him being out for the season?
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soxprospects		#159	[url]	[-]
Posts: 6516 07/23/09 4:32 PM Mike Andrews Editor-in-Chief SoxProspects.com	He is out for the season, and he signed with Pittsburgh today. He will rehab with them and try to break camp with the big league club in 2010. He has a much better chance of reaching the majors with the Pirates.
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DCRi		#160	[url]	[-]
Veteran Member Posts: 943 07/23/09 4:35 PM Veteran Member	I thought JVE did OK with the Sox and seemed like a decent 4th OF for many teams. So he should have a better shot with Pittsburgh. Interesting that this all happened in the few days around the LaRoche trade.
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Adam Laroche traded to the Sox for Strickland and Diaz