Charlie Zink

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (WillyCoPapi3) — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 22:57:41 PST

ThSneak wrote:
Good trade bait? He was cut from the 40 man and not claimed by anyone. His worth in a trade is precisely jack.

Wrong.

He would never bring back anything remotely valuable in a trade by himself, but he could be a nice throw-in for (as Hanley said) one of the bottom teams desperate for any serviceable arms. That's not significant, but it's more valuable than "jack."

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (ThSneak) — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:02:38 PST

Good trade bait? He was cut from the 40 man and not claimed by anyone. His worth in a trade is precisely jack.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (Hanley2) — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:17:07 PST

He would be good trade bait for a team that need someone that can eat up innings like Pittsburgh Once he gets on track again. He is like Moss and Murphy he is good but will never get another shot for Boston.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (Spaceman1968) — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:50:09 PST

I am pulling for him too. At least he pitched one game in the Majors. He his story is pretty incredible.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (MLBDreams) — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:23:13 PST

Last year, I happened to be at the game which Charlie was given lead by 10 runs at the end of 1st inning which he failed to hold on. It turned out RS win by ugly football score, 19-17. I never forgot about the game as I felt bad about him as he might never get shot at MLB level again with the pitching depth we have.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (CZink16) — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:06:10 PST

Zink grudgingly accepts odd-man-out role....http://www.projo.com/paws..._zink_0607.5ad1e529.html
"I don't really have a whole lot to say about it. It bothered me,'' he said. "But I guess I just was unlucky. (Smoltz's appearance) fell on my day and they didn't feel like pushing anyone else back.''

My bad SP, I thought I could paste because I had the author's name and the providence journal, won't happen again.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (soxprospects) — Wed, 13 May 2009 11:36:26 PST

Arquimedez Bozo wrote:

ThSneak wrote:
I'm pulling for him as well, but his decision to resign with the Sox after getting DFA'd speaks volumes about his chances of getting a shot. I just don't see it happening.
I was about to say this last night, but according to our transactions page, he was outrighted to Pawtucket when he was DFA'ed, so he apparently did not have a choice in the matter. Someone with a better working knowledge of this kind of thing (Mike?) can correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm pretty fuzzy on this set of rules AB, but I think you're right. He was required to accept the outright assignment because: (1) he has less than 3 years of ST; and (2) it was his first outright assignment. IE - players can reject outright assignments if they hve 3+ years ST or if it's their...

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (Arquimedez Bozo) — Wed, 13 May 2009 09:38:23 PST

ThSneak wrote:
I'm pulling for him as well, but his decision to resign with the Sox after getting DFA'd speaks volumes about his chances of getting a shot. I just don't see it happening.

I was about to say this last night, but according to our transactions page, he was outrighted to Pawtucket when he was DFA'ed, so he apparently did not have a choice in the matter. Someone with a better working knowledge of this kind of thing (Mike?) can correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (ancientsoxfogey) — Wed, 13 May 2009 04:17:41 PST

The Zink we know right now has no shot. He continues to pitch, looking for lightning in a bottle -- somehow figuring out how to make the k-ball a consistently effective pitch. Maybe someday it will click, but as time goes on the chances dim.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (ThSneak) — Wed, 13 May 2009 01:54:22 PST

I'm pulling for him as well, but his decision to resign with the Sox after getting DFA'd speaks volumes about his chances of getting a shot. I just don't see it happening.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (Arquimedez Bozo) — Wed, 13 May 2009 00:52:40 PST

It's pretty clear that Zink isn't going to get another shot at the Majors with the Red Sox. As mentioned, he's probably about 10th in line at this point, if even that.

While I'm certainly pulling for him, you can't help but think last season was a bit of an aberration for him looking at his career numbers. Even when I saw him in person, I was never really impressed - I recall a lot of hard contact right at fielders.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (BringHanleyback2) — Tue, 12 May 2009 21:54:25 PST

gfur732 wrote:

BringHanleyback2 wrote:
He had a great season last year but i'm pretty sure that Jeff Bailey was the IL MVP.
He defines MVP in his first sentence, most valuable pitcher, which Charlie Zink did win last year. Maybe abbreviating it as MVP wasn't the best choice, but it's still pretty easy to understand his intent.

edit: As far as Charlie Zink, I really hope he gets another shot at some point (as klostrophobic said, realistically somewhere else). It would be such a shame if his only major league start went so horribly. He may not ever be a major league regular, but he's certainly not as bad as that outting would suggest. I can't even begin to imagine how much that game weighs on him...

Oh yeah my bad. I saw the MVP and got confused, I didn't read it very...

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (gfur732) — Tue, 12 May 2009 21:30:07 PST

BringHanleyback2 wrote:
He had a great season last year but i'm pretty sure that Jeff Bailey was the IL MVP.

He defines MVP in his first sentence, most valuable pitcher, which Charlie Zink did win last year. Maybe abbreviating it as MVP wasn't the best choice, but it's still pretty easy to understand his intent.

edit: As far as Charlie Zink, I really hope he gets another shot at some point (as klostrophobic said, realistically somewhere else). It would be such a shame if his only major league start went so horribly. He may not ever be a major league regular, but he's certainly not as bad as that outting would suggest. I can't even begin to imagine how much that game weighs on him...

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (klostrophobic) — Tue, 12 May 2009 20:15:27 PST

I'd like to see him get another chance. It's a shame if he only gets one MLB start. He needs a new organization because there are about 10 guys ahead of him here and it's not going to get any prettier for him in the coming years.

Career MLB FIP: 3.38.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (TheGoldenGreek33) — Tue, 12 May 2009 18:00:43 PST

You're both right.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (BringHanleyback2) — Tue, 12 May 2009 17:52:08 PST

He had a great season last year but i'm pretty sure that Jeff Bailey was the IL MVP.

Re: Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (mredsox89) — Tue, 12 May 2009 16:35:08 PST

He's a knuckleballer and up and down stretches come with the territory. Last year was probably as high as he can go, now he is seeing the other end

Charlie Zink

feeds@kickapps.com (CWebb6) — Tue, 12 May 2009 15:33:14 PST

As the International League Most Valuable Pitcher, Zink was a very dominant pitcher last year. The start of this year has been very different for Zink. His stats are awful so far, as he is currently 1-4 with a 5.52 ERA. Is it too early to be questioning whether or not last season was a fluke? Also, is there any reason that he has been completely off the radar? He was, as I mentioned, the IL MVP and he saw only one start with the big club. I'm starting to assume the Red Sox have no greater plans for him.